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Some Random Thoughts On Joseph Smith and Text

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:16 pm
by _Runtu
One of the most basic beliefs of fundamentalist Christianity is the inerrancy of the Bible. I quite like this description of the position from a fundamentalist pastor: "The Bible is the Word of God; the inerrant revelation from above. It is the Word of God indeed, but not because it says so. Rather, it says so because it is" (emphasis mine). In short, the text is fixed and in no need of repair or reinterpretation. It is what it is. If the text is fixed, the meaning is also "copperfastened" as critic Terry Eagleton describes it. Obviously this is a rather reductive summary of fundamentalism, but it serves my purpose. Prooftexting, which happens often enough, wouldn't make much sense if fundamentalists didn't believe first in the accuracy of the text and second in the clarity of its meaning.

Not surprisingly, one of the great fundamentalist criticisms of the Book of Mormon is the mantra of "3,913 changes and counting." Unlike the Bible, fundamentalists say, the Book of Mormon is fluid and malleable, and presumably untrustworthy. If it is God's word, the "most perfect book" on earth, they say, why on earth would it need revision and clarification?

Joseph Smith appears not to have viewed scriptural text in the same way that the fundamentalists do. We often suppose that Joseph wasn't so much translating as he was simply repeating the words that God gave him. But he seems to have taken a less rigid approach to the scriptures. In 1837 he prepared a new edition in which, as Royal Skousen describes it, he made "hundreds of grammatical changes and a few emendations." Among these changes was the well-known change from "white" to "pure" that some people mistakenly point to as a modern church's effort to erase an embarrassing doctrine. And again in 1840, Joseph undertook another revision, this time to reconcile the text with the original manuscript. Clearly Joseph's definition of "most perfect" is not at all what fundamentalists have in mind.

Similarly, Joseph had no problem revising--and even rewriting--the revelations he received. We are all probably familiar with the radical changes to some of the revisions in the Book of Commandments when they were recompiled into the Doctrine and Covenants. And yet Joseph was able to say with confidence, "I never told you I was perfect – but there is no error in the revelations which I have taught."

We can also point to the Book of Abraham and the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible, both of which are often described as unfinished, explaining why they were not canonized in Joseph's lifetime.

But LDS scripture is only problematic in this way when one approaches it from a fundamentalist point of view. The fundamentalist privileges text over all else, at least in theory. Joseph Smith turned that idea on its head in that the Word comes not just through scripture but through prophets and the witness of the Holy Ghost. A good example of this is the description of Nephi being "led by the Spirit, not knowing beforehand the things which I should do" (1 Nephi 4:6), to the point where he goes against what he believes the scriptures tell him because the spirit "constrained" him to do so.

Even the counsel of the prophets is hedged by the primacy of the spirit. Fundamentalists make much of Brigham Young's statement that "I have never yet preached a sermon and sent it out to the children of men, that they may not call scripture." (Journal of Discourses 13:95). Yet we all understand that church members have the right (and some say obligation) to receive spiritual confirmation of what church leaders say. Lorenzo Snow taught, "There may be some things that the First Presidency do; that the Apostles do, that cannot for the moment be explained; yet the spirit, the motives that inspire the action can be understood, because each member of the Church has a right to have that measure of the Spirit of God that they can judge as to those who are acting in their interests or otherwise."

Ironically, quasi-canonical attempts to provide official interpretations to the scriptures, such as the Bible Dictionary and Guide to the Scriptures, seem almost counter to Joseph's approach. Similarly, it could be said that the correlation process, in place since 1970, is an attempt to fix boundaries on a canon that really has no boundaries.

Some have claimed that Joseph Smith was a postmodern at heart. While I wouldn't go quite there, it's obvious that his approach to the "Word" is a radical departure from orthodoxy. If I were a believing member of the church, and someone brought up the 3913 changes, I would simply say, "So what?"

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:59 pm
by _beastie
That whole post-modern trend is interesting. I had a long conversation with Ben McGuire on the Z board about it that may interest you.

http://p079.ezboard.com/fpacumenispages ... =513.topic

The conversation blew me away, and became irritating at times. I felt Ben consistently misrepresented some things I had said, and he felt the same. (which supports some basic presumptions of post modernism, in its own way)



Although I do not believe Ben's view, (he even could conceive of altering very basic teachings, such as the divinity of Christ, which I doubt even many apologists would concede) or even the internet apologist's view, represents the views of the vast majority of LDS believers, including GAs, I have come to view this quasi-postmodernist view as closer to Joseph Smith' view than the "modern" LDS church is. He clearly did not view the content of revelation as conveying an unalterable "truth". He changed revelations at will, without notice. So the content didn't matter. In fact, Joseph Smith could change revelation to make it say the OPPOSITE of what it originally said:

Original revelation, Book of Commandments 4:2 -

"...and he [Joseph Smith] has a gift to translate the book, and I have commanded him that he shall pretend to no other gift, for I will grant him no other gift."


Altered revelation:
"And you have a gift to translate the plates; and this is the first gift that I bestowed upon you; and I have commanded that you should pretend to no other gift until my purpose is fulfilled in this; for I will grant unto you no other gift until it is finished."


I've discussed this alteration with many believers on the internet, and they assure me the change did NOT fundamentally change the meaning of the revelation, an assertion I find amazing. Pretend to NO other gift means the exact opposite of pretend to no other gift UNTIL the first one is finished, and THEN I'll grant you other gifts. I am still amazed that any believer could insist the change did not alter the meaning. I don't even know how to respond to that.

But there are believers who realize that the alteration completely changed the meaning, and insist that it doesn't matter. What this means is CONTENT is irrelevant, it is only the PROCESS that matters.

I guess there's nothing more problematic with that sort of religious belief than any others - unless one wants to attach some sort of divine authority and mandate to the CONTENT (which the LDS church does).

This goes back to a conversation I had many times with believers - the ambiguous nature of revelation. Fine, revelation is ambiguous, there can be no denying that. But then it is illogical to insist that this flawed mechanism can be the vehicle by which AUTHORITATIVE truth claims are made (such as the CoJCoLDS is the only church with Jesus' authority to baptize in his name, as one example)

Of course this opens other cans of worms - particularly that Joseph Smith also stated that one of the reasons the restoration was necessary was to restore "truths" that had been altered over time. This implies that CONTENT does matter, and if CONTENT is changed enough, APOSTASY takes place.

So it's not a solution that fixes anything in the end, as far as I can see. But it is one way to explain all the changes that have taken place.

The question is now, for me, WHY did Joseph Smith not believe content mattered? Was it that he didn't really believe, at all, that God was communicating to him, and thus he could change things at will, since Joseph Smith was the actual author? Or somehow did he also work it out that God could change anything whenever He wanted, and it wasn't necessary to alert others of those changes? These are questions it is not possible to answer, of course.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:07 pm
by _Runtu
Thanks for a thoughtful response. I find it fascinating that Joseph did not care one whit about changing content (and the example you give is an excellent one). Whether or not one believes him to have been a prophet, his attitude really does turn the notion of scriptural authority and inerrancy on its head.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:35 pm
by _Blixa
That is indeed an interesting set of questions, beastie, and I don't know what I make of them at the moment.

I will say that think, and I'm persuaded more and more of this the more I read, that the "church" as Joseph Smith conceived it and "the church" as BY and everyone else since then have conceived it, are two very different things. And they are getting further and further apart...

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:43 pm
by _beastie
That is indeed an interesting set of questions, beastie, and I don't know what I make of them at the moment.


I left out another possibility that I consider just as probable as the other two - that Joseph Smith suffered from some sort of mental disorder (likely bipolar, in my opinion) that resulted in disordered thinking, in general, and that's why it didn't make any sense.


I will say that think, and I'm persuaded more and more of this the more I read, that the "church" as Joseph Smith conceived it and "the church" as BY and everyone else since then have conceived it, are two very different things. And they are getting further and further apart...


ABSOLUTELY.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:49 pm
by _Runtu
beastie wrote:
That is indeed an interesting set of questions, beastie, and I don't know what I make of them at the moment.


I left out another possibility that I consider just as probable as the other two - that Joseph Smith suffered from some sort of mental disorder (likely bipolar, in my opinion) that resulted in disordered thinking, in general, and that's why it didn't make any sense.


I will say that think, and I'm persuaded more and more of this the more I read, that the "church" as Joseph Smith conceived it and "the church" as BY and everyone else since then have conceived it, are two very different things. And they are getting further and further apart...


ABSOLUTELY.


Can't argue with that either. What was once a dynamic and radical movement (some might call it "disordered") is now a regimented and ossifying institution.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:05 pm
by _harmony
Runtu wrote: What was once a dynamic and radical movement (some might call it "disordered") is now a regimented and ossifying institution.


This is what both attracted and dismayed me, in the beginning when I joined and moreso now. I loved the idea of a dynamic open canon, of a prophet who God talked to (as opposed to a man who talked to God), of a personal impactful two-way relationship with God. My dismay in finding that all of that is myth was tremendous. I shredded the boards and my personal life for years, coming to terms with it.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:27 pm
by _CaliforniaKid
Runtu,

The odd thing about Joseph Smith is that while history and the sacred texts were judged by him to be malleable-- changeable in order to fit his needs-- he certainly doesn't teach that. And when he makes changes to the revelations (except in the case of "restoring" the Bible, of course), he does so only in minor, subtle ways. For major revisions he simply wrote the new view into the writings of an earlier patriarch. We can see this in his changing understanding of the creation. Anthony Hutchinson explored this in a magnificent Dialogue article about 20 years ago. Moses, Abraham, and the temple ceremony all represent three very distinct stages in Joseph Smith's understanding of creation. If he was really promoting a "fluid" view of text, he would have simply continued to revise the same document to accord with his latest understanding. But he doesn't do that. The changes to the Book of Mormon and Book of Commandments are made for PR purposes, to smooth over glaring deficiencies in a subtle enough way that nobody would notice. The real fluidity of Joseph Smith's doctrine, however, shows up in new revelations rather than in changes to the old ones. Joseph merely provides us reasons to privilege the new text over the old one-- for example, the patriarch Abraham is more remote than Moses.

-CK

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:33 pm
by _Runtu
CaliforniaKid wrote:Runtu,

The odd thing about Joseph Smith is that while history and the sacred texts were judged by him to be malleable-- changeable in order to fit his needs-- he certainly doesn't teach that. And when he makes changes to the revelations (except in the case of "restoring" the Bible, of course), he does so only in minor, subtle ways. For major revisions he simply wrote the new view into the writings of an earlier patriarch. We can see this in his changing understanding of the creation. Anthony Hutchinson explored this in a magnificent Dialogue article about 20 years ago. Moses, Abraham, and the temple ceremony all represent three very distinct stages in Joseph Smith's understanding of creation. If he was really promoting a "fluid" view of text, he would have simply continued to revise the same document to accord with his latest understanding. But he doesn't do that. The changes to the Book of Mormon and Book of Commandments are made for PR purposes, to smooth over glaring deficiencies in a subtle enough way that nobody would notice. The real fluidity of Joseph Smith's doctrine, however, shows up in new revelations rather than in changes to the old ones. Joseph merely provides us reasons to privilege the new text over the old one-- for example, the patriarch Abraham is more remote than Moses.

-CK


Very true. I find the whole thing fascinating. What is also interesting is that, even though the new revelations overwrite the old ones, nobody in the church seems to recognize any inconsistency. Yes, the new stuff is privileged, but the old revelation is not seen as in conflict. I also see in this the genesis of the idea that a living prophet Trump's a dead one.

Re: Some Random Thoughts On Joseph Smith and Text

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:52 pm
by _silentkid
Runtu wrote:Ironically, quasi-canonical attempts to provide official interpretations to the scriptures, such as the Bible Dictionary and Guide to the Scriptures, seem almost counter to Joseph's approach. Similarly, it could be said that the correlation process, in place since 1970, is an attempt to fix boundaries on a canon that really has no boundaries.


I really enjoyed this analysis, Runtu. One thing that stood out to me was the statement quoted above. I find it interesting that the church puts so much emphasis on a personal spiritual witness about the truth of its scriptures, but gives the reader less and less leeway in how to personally interpret those scriptures using the spirit. The Bible dictionary, topical guide, and correlation materials seem to force a specific interpretation on the reader and the spirit is relegated to confirming those specific interpretations rather than generating new insights. Wow...that was redundant and almost chiastic in structure. ;)