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Let's talk about "sheum"

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:06 pm
by _GoodK
Anyone familiar with this argument or "piece of evidence", your thoughts (and hopefully references) would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

GoodK

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:14 pm
by _moksha
INDEX
Sheum
Unidentified crop cultivated by Nephites
Mosiah 9: 9 people of Zeniff till ground with seed of sheum.


Could this have been hemp seed?

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:34 pm
by _GoodK
moksha wrote:
INDEX
Sheum
Unidentified crop cultivated by Nephites
Mosiah 9: 9 people of Zeniff till ground with seed of sheum.


Could this have been hemp seed?


too funny... perhaps it was. I never considered that possibility.

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:34 am
by _bcspace
How about barley, grains generally, or pine nuts?

The Assyrian Dictionary of the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago, ed. Ignace J. Gelb et al. (Chicago: Oriental Institute, 1992), vol. 17, pt. 2, 345–55, sheum

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:44 am
by _ludwigm
Special pet food for cureloms. Don't confuse it with neas which is useful unto cumoms only.
Both material can be stored only cans made out of ziff.

Sources:
- The Book of Ether chapter 16
- Revelation given through me, at Budapest, Hungary, recorded today early morning, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, as also plurality of wives (and please don't report this to my only one wife) and also usefulness of materials unknown for any scientist of any respectable university.
- Verily, verily! This is the truth because I have said it so!

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:55 pm
by _GoodK
So has anyone read Echoe's and Evidences of the Book of Mormon? In it the authors claim that because sheum was an akkadian word, and it could not have been known by Joseph Smith at the time the Book of Mormon is translated, the book must have been inspired. I'm having trouble finding evidence to support, or disprove this claim and was wondering if anyone could help.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:33 am
by _ludwigm
GoodK wrote:So has anyone read Echoe's and Evidences of the Book of Mormon? In it the authors claim that because sheum was an akkadian word, and it could not have been known by Joseph Smith at the time the Book of Mormon is translated, the book must have been inspired. I'm having trouble finding evidence to support, or disprove this claim and was wondering if anyone could help.

Please be more correct! Reformed akkadian.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:58 pm
by _GoodK
ludwigm wrote:
GoodK wrote:So has anyone read Echoe's and Evidences of the Book of Mormon? In it the authors claim that because sheum was an akkadian word, and it could not have been known by Joseph Smith at the time the Book of Mormon is translated, the book must have been inspired. I'm having trouble finding evidence to support, or disprove this claim and was wondering if anyone could help.

Please be more correct! Reformed akkadian.


can someone give me a source where I can check when this akkadian word was discovered, if it really was undiscovered prior to the 1850's, if it really appeared in the print manuscript, and where Joseph could have learned the word.

GOODK

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:39 pm
by _moksha
Has the usage of this word not appeared in Hollywood Lamanite productions? Has not the phrase, "Sheum heep good wife" been a staple of Lamanite family flicks?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:54 pm
by _GoodK
moksha wrote:Has the usage of this word not appeared in Hollywood Lamanite productions? Has not the phrase, "Sheum heep good wife" been a staple of Lamanite family flicks?


You lost me.