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Numbers 30 Husbands nullifying wife’s temple vows?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:15 am
by _jonLinn
removed :)

Re: Numbers 30 Husbands nullifying wife’s temple vows?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:57 am
by _asbestosman
jonLinn wrote:My first question would be what kinds of pledges will she have to make?

I think it would be best to ask her bishop who I imagine would be more than happy to answer your questions. I am not allowed to go into specifics, but the general nature of the pledges is to remain a commited latter-day saint and to be obediant to various commandments in the LDS church most of which you should be familiar with. The best way for her to be prapared for making those pledges is by keepig the LDS commandments she is already aware of including the 10 commandments, tithing, and the Word of Wisdom. The church website, LDS.org, also contains some general information about what happens in LDS temples.

Re: Numbers 30 Husbands nullifying wife’s temple vows?

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:54 am
by _Inconceivable
jonLinn wrote:I have a meeting with her bishop Sunday he wants me to give written permission for her to go to the temple.



JonLinn,

Written permission is a joke. This is 2008. She doesn't need permission from you to go through a Mormon temple. The bishop is playing games with you. You have no rights under Mormon doctrine. You are an outsider.

As far as the covenants and obligations she will be required to make, I would suggest asking in the Terestrial/Telestial forums. Some covenants to me are quite disturbing. I spent 20 years of my life as an active and regular temple attender. Now I choose to never return, now that I have learned the troubling history of the church.

If your wife is or becomes a strong active member, please understand that her life's sacred and solemn mission will be to somehow get you to accept the Mormon Jesus, be baptised and enter the temple to be sealed to her and your children for eternity. Anything short of fulfilling this goal would be catastrophic in her mind. If you reject the Mormon church, you would be assigned to a lower kingdom and your wife and children would be given to a "righteous" Mormon man in the highest kingdom (after this life). Per speculation, most likely she and the children will not be his first or only wife. I imagine the polygamy/reasignment to another man issue has not occurred to her. It might put the rediculousness of the Mormon religeon into better perspective for her.

I wish you all the best. My wife (and most of my children) are members of the church too.

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:32 pm
by _Boaz & Lidia
Her bishop requesting your permission is nothing more than a ploy to get a Mormon foot in your door in an attempt at converting you.

Tell your wife she is free to make her choices, that is unless you are one of those nazi christians who thinks she reports to you.

Re: Numbers 30 Husbands nullifying wife’s temple vows?

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:59 am
by _ludwigm
Inconceivable wrote:
jonLinn wrote:I have a meeting with her bishop Sunday he wants me to give written permission for her to go to the temple.
JonLinn,
Written permission is a joke. This is 2008. She doesn't need permission from you to go through a Mormon temple. The bishop is playing games with you. You have no rights under Mormon doctrine. You are an outsider.
...
I wish you all the best. My wife (and most of my children) are members of the church too.

Fortunately, my wife is the only member of the extended family.
Fortunately, her children and her siblings are as appreciative as one can be.
Unfortunately, I am less appreciative but I am the driver to the Xxx Germany temple in every year, with she and her two womanfriend. (The landlord can believe I am a Mormon with three wives, as we appear there in every year ... )

I wish you all the best. One should not give up.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:06 am
by _bcspace
And do you think she will be able to get her recommend if I have to tell the bishop that I feel compelled for her physical and or spiritual well being?

I do not want to sabotage her chance to go to her brothers wedding if it can be helped. (out of respect for her and because it won’t help the peace in my house) :)


1 Corinthians 7:14

I wouldn't worry about it. Of course you and I would differ on who is unbelieving in this case... ;)

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:27 pm
by _Yoda
I have never heard of this practice of having a non-member husband give written permission for a non endowed wife to get a temple recommend. Is this some type of new policy? BC? Bob? Anyone?

Also..The woman is going to the temple to observe a wedding. Will she be required to take out her own endowments before going, or does she simply have to have the temple recommend to witness the wedding?

I'm a little confused on these issues.

Thanks for the responses!

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:24 pm
by _Dr. Shades
liz3564 wrote:I have never heard of this practice of having a non-member husband give written permission for a non member wife to get a temple recommend. Is this some type of new policy? BC? Bob? Anyone?


Actually, he said his wife is a member.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:27 pm
by _Yoda
Dr. Shades wrote:
liz3564 wrote:I have never heard of this practice of having a non-member husband give written permission for a non member wife to get a temple recommend. Is this some type of new policy? BC? Bob? Anyone?


Actually, he said his wife is a member.


Sorry, Shades. Fixed it. I meant non-endowed.

;)

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:53 pm
by _Yoda
With that clarification in mind, does anyone know the answers to my questions:

1. Can someone who is non-endowed, but possess a current temple recommend be eligible to witness a temple sealing?

2. How long has this new practice of a non-member husband providing written permission for a member wife to receive a temple recommend been in place?