GoodK please give your top 5 biblical contradictions
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GoodK please give your top 5 biblical contradictions
This thread is for GoodK, if he agrees, to list his top five biblical contradictions and then we can discuss them (though I should warn that I may be posting a bit less in the next couple of weeks).
Re: GoodK please give your top 5 biblical contradictions
richardMdBorn wrote:This thread is for GoodK, if he agrees, to list his top five biblical contradictions and then we can discuss them (though I should warn that I may be posting a bit less in the next couple of weeks).
Gladly, but I have to run to class right now I'll post my answer tonight or tomorrow.
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Re: GoodK please give your top 5 biblical contradictions
What class is it?GoodK wrote:richardMdBorn wrote:This thread is for GoodK, if he agrees, to list his top five biblical contradictions and then we can discuss them (though I should warn that I may be posting a bit less in the next couple of weeks).
Gladly, but I have to run to class right now I'll post my answer tonight or tomorrow.
Re: GoodK please give your top 5 biblical contradictions
richardMdBorn wrote:What class is it?GoodK wrote:richardMdBorn wrote:This thread is for GoodK, if he agrees, to list his top five biblical contradictions and then we can discuss them (though I should warn that I may be posting a bit less in the next couple of weeks).
Gladly, but I have to run to class right now I'll post my answer tonight or tomorrow.
Communications 105... speech..
Major contradictions regarding Jesus:
(We can talk about the other ones not involving Jesus if you like - such as Genesis chapter 1 says God created beast's first, Genesis chapter 2 says God created man first.)
Matthew says Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see Jesus at his tomb.
Mark says Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome were there.
John says it was just Mary Magdalene.
Acts says Mary was impregnated by a man (2:30).
Matthew says she was impregnated by the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 27:46,50
Luke 23:46
John 19:30 can't agree on what Jesus' last words were.
Matthew (28:2) says that the Lord descended from heaven and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
Luke (24:4) says that two men stood there.
John (20:12) says two angels were there.
John says Jesus died on the day before the Passover meal was eaten.
Mark says Jesus died after the Passover meal was eaten.
John says Jesus died at noon, Mark says he died at 9 AM
A few more contradictions, to quote Bart Ehrman, from the same quote I've posted several times:
I know this is more than 5, sorry, but all of the above equally bother me.
(We can talk about the other ones not involving Jesus if you like - such as Genesis chapter 1 says God created beast's first, Genesis chapter 2 says God created man first.)
Matthew says Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see Jesus at his tomb.
Mark says Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome were there.
John says it was just Mary Magdalene.
Acts says Mary was impregnated by a man (2:30).
Matthew says she was impregnated by the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 27:46,50
Luke 23:46
John 19:30 can't agree on what Jesus' last words were.
Matthew (28:2) says that the Lord descended from heaven and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
Luke (24:4) says that two men stood there.
John (20:12) says two angels were there.
John says Jesus died on the day before the Passover meal was eaten.
Mark says Jesus died after the Passover meal was eaten.
John says Jesus died at noon, Mark says he died at 9 AM
A few more contradictions, to quote Bart Ehrman, from the same quote I've posted several times:
Did Jesus carry his cross the entire way himself or did Simon of
Cyrene carry his cross?
Did both robbers mock Jesus on the
cross or did only one of them mock him and the other come to his defense?
Did the curtain in the temple rip in half before Jesus died or after he died?
http://www.holycross.edu/departments/cr ... debate.htm
I know this is more than 5, sorry, but all of the above equally bother me.
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Contradiction #1
That Matthew says-------Mary Magdalene and the other Mary
That Mark says-----------Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, Salome
That John says-----------Mary Magdalene
Does not rule out all three women or more women. None of the above passages state "only" the names listed were present.
John does in no way indicate that Mary Magdalene was alone. He never states that it was "just" Mary. He simply reports on Mary.
The above are not contradictions.
Matthew says Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see Jesus at his tomb.
Mark says Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome were there.
John says it was just Mary Magdalene.
That Matthew says-------Mary Magdalene and the other Mary
That Mark says-----------Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, Salome
That John says-----------Mary Magdalene
Does not rule out all three women or more women. None of the above passages state "only" the names listed were present.
John does in no way indicate that Mary Magdalene was alone. He never states that it was "just" Mary. He simply reports on Mary.
The above are not contradictions.
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Contradiction #6
What you're seeing there is the difference between how the Romans (John) and the Jews (Mark) marked time in terms of days, hours.
The Gospel of Mark doesn't say that Jesus died at "9 AM". It clearly states "ninth hour" which as nothing to do with "9AM". I'll return to fill in the "blanks" on this post.
It's not a contradiction.
John says Jesus died at noon, Mark says he died at 9 AM
What you're seeing there is the difference between how the Romans (John) and the Jews (Mark) marked time in terms of days, hours.
The Gospel of Mark doesn't say that Jesus died at "9 AM". It clearly states "ninth hour" which as nothing to do with "9AM". I'll return to fill in the "blanks" on this post.
It's not a contradiction.
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What translation are you using for Acts 2:30???? The NAS statesGoodK wrote:Major contradictions regarding Jesus:
Acts says Mary was impregnated by a man (2:30).
Matthew says she was impregnated by the Holy Ghost.
30"And so, because he [David]was a prophet and knew that GOD HAD SWORN TO HIM WITH AN OATH TO SEAT one OF HIS DESCENDANTS ON HIS THRONE,
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