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When did Eve know 'the truth'?
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:18 am
by _Mahonri
"Unable to seduce Adam into taking the fruit, Satan succeeds in pursuading Eve to partake of the fruit. She, in turn tells Adam what she has done, and he partakes "that man may be." Suddenly Eve's eyes are opened, and she recognizes her tempter as "He who was cast out of father's presence for rebellion."
The above is taken from another site and it raises a question I have had for some time. If Eve ate fruit from the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil, how come she didn't know good from Evil until Adam ate the fruit? Second class citizen even then, having to have her man tell her what to think or what she 'knew'?
Re: When did Eve know 'the truth'?
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:53 am
by _Yoda
Mahonri wrote:"Unable to seduce Adam into taking the fruit, Satan succeeds in pursuading Eve to partake of the fruit. She, in turn tells Adam what she has done, and he partakes "that man may be." Suddenly Eve's eyes are opened, and she recognizes her tempter as "He who was cast out of father's presence for rebellion."
The above is taken from another site and it raises a question I have had for some time. If Eve ate fruit from the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil, how come she didn't know good from Evil until Adam ate the fruit? Second class citizen even then, having to have her man tell her what to think or what she 'knew'?
Hmmm...I thought that Eve recognized Satan as the deceiver before she gave Adam the fruit. I'll have to re-read... ;)
Re: When did Eve know 'the truth'?
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:57 am
by _moksha
Mahonri wrote:"Unable to seduce Adam into taking the fruit, Satan succeeds in pursuading Eve to partake of the fruit. She, in turn tells Adam what she has done, and he partakes "that man may be." Suddenly Eve's eyes are opened, and she recognizes her tempter as "He who was cast out of father's presence for rebellion."
The above is taken from another site and it raises a question I have had for some time. If Eve ate fruit from the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil, how come she didn't know good from Evil until Adam ate the fruit? Second class citizen even then, having to have her man tell her what to think or what she 'knew'?
Allegory is wonderful because you can not only get much symbolism out of it, but read so much into it as well.
Re: When did Eve know 'the truth'?
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:34 am
by _Dr. Shades
Mahonri wrote:If Eve ate fruit from the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil, how come she didn't know good from Evil until Adam ate the fruit
She
did know good from evil before giving Adam the fruit.
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:13 pm
by _truth dancer
The whole story, sounds to me like an unenlightened man about three thousand years ago who believed in a fall of some kind and didn't want men, (being the more important and righteous gender), to take the blame.
;-)
~dancer~
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:28 am
by _Mahonri
As I read an account I thought it odd that Eve only recognized Satan after Adam also ate the fruit. After Adam did Eve said, on seeing Satan "I know thee now", indicating she did not or may not have known or recognized him before Adam got into the act.
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:39 am
by _The Nehor
According to many Jewish and Christian legends Eve tricked the serpent into revealing much more then he ever deceived her.
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:02 am
by _Boaz & Lidia
The Nehor wrote:According to many Jewish and Christian legends Eve tricked the serpent into revealing much more then he ever deceived her.
You don't know much about women do you?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:33 pm
by _The Nehor
Boaz & Lidia wrote:The Nehor wrote:According to many Jewish and Christian legends Eve tricked the serpent into revealing much more then he ever deceived her.
You don't know much about women do you?
And this would relate to what I said how exactly?
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:10 am
by _bcspace
Eve came to the conclusion, before partaking of the fruit, that it must be done in order to fulfill some of God's commands. This seems to have come about in conversation with Satan. However, Satan also mixed in the lie that they would not die. This also illustrates that Satan did not fully understand what was going to happen else I think he would not have tempted Eve at all (which would have stopped the plan).