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Anthon Transcript and Preclassic Cylinder Seals

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:39 pm
by _Trevor
Greetings all,

In my quest to understand the actual evidence for an ancient Book of Mormon and its value, I have tried to find anything similar among the artifacts of Ancient America. The best evidence for something resembling the Anthon transcript in any way seems to be (although I haven't exhausted all avenues) a collection of Preclassic cylinder seals found in Mesoamerica. These seals arguably provide evidence of a complex writing system of abstract symbols in the Preclassic Era. Beginning with an article by Carl Hugh Jones in 1970, the characters of the Anthon Transcript have been compared favorably with such seals.

In JBMS 8.1, an article revived Jones' work, without citing the specific parallels between the two documents. For this article, click here

I have not seen the original Jones article, but if any of you know where I can get a hold of it, please let me know.

I will say that, looking at the Anthon Transcript next to the Tlatilco seal (because it is one cylinder seal picture readily available online), I am hard pressed to see how one would think that these are related. What do you think?

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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:28 am
by _Her Amun
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Meriotic makes more sense to me.

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:44 am
by _Trevor
If I were looking for Old World material, I might take time to assess this. I am not.

Re: Anthon Transcript and Preclassic Cylinder Seals

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:18 pm
by _bcspace
Along these lines, I'm trying to find an article that I once had (and may still have) favorably comparing Anthon's description of the characters with those of one, Professor Ralfinesque, and some symbols from a place called Otolum.

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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:05 pm
by _Danna
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I have a slightly different theory.

Edit: Nearly forgot the Aspects:
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Re: Anthon Transcript and Preclassic Cylinder Seals

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:43 pm
by _Tom
Trevor wrote:In JBMS 8.1, an article revived Jones' work, without citing the specific parallels between the two documents. For this article, click here

I have not seen the original Jones article, but if any of you know where I can get a hold of it, please let me know.


Jones's article is posted here.

Re: Anthon Transcript and Preclassic Cylinder Seals

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:00 pm
by _Trevor
Tom wrote:Jones's article is posted here.


Thanks, Tom!

Re: Anthon Transcript and Preclassic Cylinder Seals

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:40 pm
by _harmony
Trevor wrote:Greetings all,

In my quest to understand the actual evidence for an ancient Book of Mormon and its value, I have tried to find anything similar among the artifacts of Ancient America. The best evidence for something resembling the Anthon transcript in any way seems to be (although I haven't exhausted all avenues) a collection of Preclassic cylinder seals found in Mesoamerica. These seals arguably provide evidence of a complex writing system of abstract symbols in the Preclassic Era. Beginning with an article by Carl Hugh Jones in 1970, the characters of the Anthon Transcript have been compared favorably with such seals.

In JBMS 8.1, an article revived Jones' work, without citing the specific parallels between the two documents. For this article, click here

I have not seen the original Jones article, but if any of you know where I can get a hold of it, please let me know.

I will say that, looking at the Anthon Transcript next to the Tlatilco seal (because it is one cylinder seal picture readily available online), I am hard pressed to see how one would think that these are related. What do you think?



I think the transcript looks amazingly like the shorthand I used to use to take dictation. And the cylinder looks like a system of lines and dots. In other words, not at all related. (but then, why would we expect them to be?)

Re: Anthon Transcript and Preclassic Cylinder Seals

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:24 am
by _Trevor
harmony wrote:I think the transcript looks amazingly like the shorthand I used to use to take dictation. And the cylinder looks like a system of lines and dots. In other words, not at all related. (but then, why would we expect them to be?)


Indeed. But I wanted to give the apologists a shot at persuading.