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If I understand Bcspace right, he says doctrine is only what is contained within the LDS Canon.

It seems the Church is always being slammed for utterances made by LDS Apostles and Prophets. The usual answer is that they were speaking as Men and Man always has a great capacity for error. That is why sticking with the LDS Canon is so important. That way we will never bog down in speculation such as Adam being God or think that such trivia as earrings and white shirts should be a concern of the Church.

If we give credence to every item ever said, are we not just putting men on pedestals and waiting for them to be toppled when what they said is faulty? By limiting doctrine to what has made its way into Canon we are limiting the over reach of speculation.

The LDS Church has no doctrine.

Bcspace probably right about what is LDS Doctrine

I am right about what is LDS doctrine, yes.

If I understand Bcspace right, he says doctrine is only what is contained within the LDS Canon.

I've never said that. LDS doctrine is that which is published by the LDS Church and so besides the scriptures (canon), it includes all manuals etc.

If we give credence to every item ever said, are we not just putting men on pedestals and waiting for them to be toppled when what they said is faulty? By limiting doctrine to what has made its way into Canon we are limiting the over reach of speculation.

According to the Church, the First Presidency and Qo12 counsel together on what doctrine gets published, so yes, any indivudal GA statements, books, etc. are not LDS doctrine, unless the Church publishes them and that avoids much personal speculation.

Are there still errors, conflicts, or anachronisms? Of course. Nothing catastrophic though.

"The usual answer is that they were speaking as Men and Man always has a great capacity for error."
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So the teaching that The Lord will never allow the prophet to lead the church astray... is wrong?

If you can't trust the teachings and leadership of Gods Chosen on Earth... what good are they?

bcspace wrote:I've never said that. LDS doctrine is that which is published by the LDS Church and so besides the scriptures (canon), it includes all manuals etc.

Rather than gloating that someone may thing you have a valid point regarding doctrine you have to point up that once again doctrine is what it is not, and is not what you think it is.

bcspace wrote:
I've never said that. LDS doctrine is that which is published by the LDS Church and so besides the scriptures (canon), it includes all manuals etc.

Except for Adam God, for some reason.

I've never said that. LDS doctrine is that which is published by the LDS Church and so besides the scriptures (canon), it includes all manuals etc.

Except for Adam God, for some reason.

Doesn't seem to be the case.

bcspace wrote:
Doesn't seem to be the case.

It was published by the church.

The temple ceremony is not doctrine. Interesting. Or has it actually been published by the church?

The temple ceremony is not doctrine. Interesting. Or has it actually been published by the church?

It has been. But it's esoteric. The Temple Recommend interview book [sic] is another example of such.