Page 1 of 3
Does the LDS teach that all other Churches are Satanic ?
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:14 pm
by _Andy
It is not my intent to attack anyone nor am i suggesting that it is true ..I am asking you ..
By Satanic i don't mean worshipers of satan ..i mean Satanic in origin .
Andy
Re: Does the LDS teach that all other Churches are Satanic ?
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:23 pm
by _Simon Belmont
Nope.
Re: Does the LDS teach that all other Churches are Satanic ?
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:24 pm
by _Daniel Peterson
I'm addressing this topic, more or less, at the FAIR conference on 5 August.
Re: Does the LDS teach that all other Churches are Satanic ?
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:39 pm
by _LDSToronto
Not recently. Perhaps not ever.
H.
Re: Does the LDS teach that all other Churches are Satanic ?
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:30 pm
by _Joseph
Yes, it does. What was joe told in the first vision?
I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: "they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof."
***********************************
You are either the church of Jesus or you are the church of the devil.
Re: Does the LDS teach that all other Churches are Satanic ?
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:26 pm
by _Themis
Joseph wrote:Yes, it does. What was joe told in the first vision?
I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: "they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof."
***********************************
You are either the church of Jesus or you are the church of the devil.
The church today tends not to think that way, but back then Joseph and many others viewed it this way. The church of the devil you are thinking about does not come from the FV, although it is very harsh on all other religions, but the Book of Mormon which states very clearly there are only two church's. One the church of the lamb of God and the other the church of the devil. If you don't belong to the church of the Lamb of God then you belong to the church of the devil. It's basically "If you are not with us you are against us" Thinking.
Re: Does the LDS teach that all other Churches are Satanic ?
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:36 pm
by _Themis
Andy wrote:It is not my intent to attack anyone nor am i suggesting that it is true ..I am asking you ..
By Satanic i don't mean worshipers of satan ..i mean Satanic in origin .
Andy
According to the Book of Mormon the answer would be yes. Read 1 Nephi 13-14.
Re: Does the LDS teach that all other Churches are Satanic ?
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:23 am
by _moksha
Sorry Andy, the official answer to your question will not be available till August 5, 2011 at the FAIR Conference. When Dr. Peterson speaks, the answer has been given. You might want to come prepared with both a halo and a pitch fork as contingency measures depending upon his answer.
Be at the Sandy Expo Center or flounder in eternal darkness.
.
Re: Does the LDS teach that all other Churches are Satanic ?
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:27 am
by _bcspace
It is not my intent to attack anyone nor am i suggesting that it is true ..I am asking you ..
By Satanic i don't mean worshipers of satan ..i mean Satanic in origin .
Yes. It's JS-H 1:19 that really slams it home for standard Protestants and even Catholics as far as the Book of Mormon church of the Devil is concerned. As you stated, it's not that they worship or follow Satan directly. It's that their teachings, requirements, and heavenly authority (being nonexistent) are not sufficient or correct for eternal life, therefore they accomplish Satan's work by holding people back from those truths.
One could certainly argue that they bring people to a knowledge of some truths, but that does not absolve their overall effect on exaltation.
Some will argue that the church of the Devil is merely the body of erroneous beliefs. This is incorrect. Such a body of beliefs must have a structure in order to be delivered in the fashion they are, just like the true Church has a similar structure (Ephesians 4:11-14). The church of the Devil has it's own false prophets and teachers.
Re: Does the LDS teach that all other Churches are Satanic ?
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:59 pm
by _karl61
bcspace wrote:It is not my intent to attack anyone nor am i suggesting that it is true ..I am asking you ..
By Satanic i don't mean worshipers of satan ..i mean Satanic in origin .
Yes. It's Joseph Smith-H 1:19 that really slams it home for standard Protestants and even Catholics as far as the Book of Mormon church of the Devil is concerned. As you stated, it's not that they worship or follow Satan directly. It's that their teachings, requirements, and heavenly authority (being nonexistent) are not sufficient or correct for eternal life, therefore they accomplish Satan's work by holding people back from those truths.
One could certainly argue that they bring people to a knowledge of some truths, but that does not absolve their overall effect on exaltation.
Some will argue that the church of the Devil is merely the body of erroneous beliefs. This is incorrect. Such a body of beliefs must have a structure in order to be delivered in the fashion they are, just like the true Church has a similar structure (Ephesians 4:11-14). The church of the Devil has it's own false prophets and teachers.
and the true church of Christ has evangelists (Ephesians 4: 11-14)