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Temples banned from renting out temple clothing...
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:59 pm
by _jon
In a letter to temple presidents:
The custom has developed in some of the temples of selling consecrated oil, books and records, and of renting of temple clothing, the object being to accommodate persons who come to do work in the House of the Lord. Trafficking in these commodities is hardly in keeping with the sacredness of the temple, and we would, therefore, like you to discontinue this practice after December 31, 1911.
Joseph F. Smith and Anthon H. Lund
(ref:The Development of LDS Temple Worship, 1846-2000" by Devery S. Anderson, p157)
When did 'trafficking in these commodities' suddenly become okay again?
Re: Temples banned from renting out temple clothing...
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:11 pm
by _Buffalo
jon wrote:In a letter to temple presidents:
The custom has developed in some of the temples of selling consecrated oil, books and records, and of renting of temple clothing, the object being to accommodate persons who come to do work in the House of the Lord. Trafficking in these commodities is hardly in keeping with the sacredness of the temple, and we would, therefore, like you to discontinue this practice after December 31, 1911.
Joseph F. Smith and Anthon H. Lund
(ref:The Development of LDS Temple Worship, 1846-2000" by Devery S. Anderson, p157)
When did 'trafficking in these commodities' suddenly become okay again?
Because God is capricious and inconsistent?
Re: Temples banned from renting out temple clothing...
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:21 pm
by _subgenius
jon wrote:In a letter to temple presidents:
The custom has developed in some of the temples of selling consecrated oil, books and records, and of renting of temple clothing, the object being to accommodate persons who come to do work in the House of the Lord. Trafficking in these commodities is hardly in keeping with the sacredness of the temple, and we would, therefore, like you to discontinue this practice after December 31, 1911.
Joseph F. Smith and Anthon H. Lund
(ref:The Development of LDS Temple Worship, 1846-2000" by Devery S. Anderson, p157)
When did 'trafficking in these commodities' suddenly become okay again?
it would seem that the requirement of having a temple recommend and driver's license in order to purchase garments, and to enter Temple for renting garments/vestments is seen as means to still prevent trafficking while responding to the needs of the community using the Temple (and that facility is arguably not Temple proper). I am not aware of consecrated oil, etc being sold in the Temple.
Re: Temples banned from renting out temple clothing...
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:26 pm
by _subgenius
Buffalo wrote:
Because God is capricious and inconsistent?
nope. its called "continuing revelation", slick. ;)
Re: Temples banned from renting out temple clothing...
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:31 pm
by _Buffalo
subgenius wrote:Buffalo wrote:
Because God is capricious and inconsistent?
nope. its called "continuing revelation", slick. ;)
Yes, that's what I said. And that continuing revelation is capricious and inconsistent. God is a flip-flopper. :)
Re: Temples banned from renting out temple clothing...
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:38 pm
by _subgenius
Buffalo wrote:
Yes, that's what I said. And that continuing revelation is capricious and inconsistent. God is a flip-flopper. :)
No, like science...its adaptable and open to discovery
Re: Temples banned from renting out temple clothing...
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:44 pm
by _Buffalo
subgenius wrote:Buffalo wrote:
Yes, that's what I said. And that continuing revelation is capricious and inconsistent. God is a flip-flopper. :)
No, like science...its adaptable and open to discovery
Unlike science, it's devoid of research or falsifiability. But isn't god already supposed to know everything?
Re: Temples banned from renting out temple clothing...
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:50 pm
by _harmony
jon wrote:In a letter to temple presidents:
The custom has developed in some of the temples of selling consecrated oil, books and records, and of renting of temple clothing, the object being to accommodate persons who come to do work in the House of the Lord. Trafficking in these commodities is hardly in keeping with the sacredness of the temple, and we would, therefore, like you to discontinue this practice after December 31, 1911.
Joseph F. Smith and Anthon H. Lund
(ref:The Development of LDS Temple Worship, 1846-2000" by Devery S. Anderson, p157)
When did 'trafficking in these commodities' suddenly become okay again?
At some point prior to Dec 10, 1971, at least as far as renting clothing is concerned.
Joseph F Smith again. Bleah.
Re: Temples banned from renting out temple clothing...
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:49 pm
by _malkie
The renting of clothing and charging for lunch were among the things that really surprised me on my first visit to the temple.
Even though I didn't have much idea how wealthy the church is (or appears to be), I thought that these things would be reasonable operating expenses for the facility, rather than being a cost to the patron. They must be quite a small fraction of total operating costs for a temple, no?