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Pornography Poll: Personal Issues

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:55 am
by _Droopy
Another question of interest vis-a-vis the question at hand.

Re: Pornography Poll: Personal Issues

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:45 pm
by _LDSToronto
Anyone else a little creeped out by Droopy's porn questions?

Re: Pornography Poll: Personal Issues

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:20 am
by _Hades
LDSToronto wrote:Anyone else a little creeped out by Droopy's porn questions?

I too, am creeped out.

Re: Pornography Poll: Personal Issues

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:01 am
by _Yong Xi
LDSToronto wrote:Anyone else a little creeped out by Droopy's porn questions?


Not creeped out. I just find it amusing that he is the only poster who has voted.

Re: Pornography Poll: Personal Issues

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:17 am
by _Droopy
LDSToronto wrote:Anyone else a little creeped out by Droopy's porn questions?


Why won't you engage the questions?

Re: Pornography Poll: Personal Issues

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:18 am
by _Droopy
Yong Xi wrote:
LDSToronto wrote:Anyone else a little creeped out by Droopy's porn questions?


Not creeped out. I just find it amusing that he is the only poster who has voted.



I never vote in my own polls, hence, I thought it might have been one of those who responded by saying the poll was "creepy."

Re: Pornography Poll: Personal Issues

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:20 am
by _Morley
Droopy wrote:
LDSToronto wrote:Anyone else a little creeped out by Droopy's porn questions?


Why won't you engage the questions?


A better question might be: "Droopy, why are you obsessed with this topic?"

Re: Pornography Poll: Personal Issues

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:35 am
by _Droopy
A better question might be: "Droopy, why are you obsessed with this topic?"



Oh no, I think a much better question is, "Why won't you engage the question?"

As I've said elsewhere, I'm not "obsessed" with anything. Its social liberals who have always been totemically obsessed with eroticism and sex, to the point of having saturated the entire culture with it such that escape from its pervasive influence is almost impossible.

Re: Pornography Poll: Personal Issues

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:36 am
by _Quasimodo
Droopy wrote:
As I've said elsewhere, I'm not "obsessed" with anything. Its social liberals who have always been totemically obsessed with eroticism and sex, to the point of having saturated the entire culture with it such that escape from its pervasive influence is almost impossible.



Droopy, humans have always been more than just interested in sex. It's natural. If our moms and dads weren't interested in sex none of us would be here.

The "obsession" comes from people who have guilt feelings about sex derived from silly religious taboos that suppress their natural desires (which they see as evil). If it wasn't a taboo, sex would just be a normal part of life and not something to be ashamed of. That's what creates a market for what you call pornography.

Sex is not the evil here. It's the suppression of sex that's evil.

Re: Pornography Poll: Personal Issues

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:08 am
by _Droopy
Droopy, humans have always been more than just interested in sex.


Yes, they have.

It's natural.


Its also deeply culturally conditioned and mediated by a number of other factors.

If our moms and dads weren't interested in sex none of us would be here.


What does this have to do with pornography?

The "obsession" comes from people who have guilt feelings about sex derived from silly religious taboos that suppress their natural desires (which they see as evil).


This is nothing but a emotive tirade. Being in the Celestial room, could you engage in philosophical argumentation?

If it wasn't a taboo, sex would just be a normal part of life and not something to be ashamed of. That's what creates a market for what you call pornography.


I'm posing serious questions, and trying to elicit stimulating discussion/debate, and all I can get, for the most part, is a traditional Phil Donahue rant about silly religious taboos, the "naturalness" of sex, and how moral principles themselves are the cause of the very social pathologies they seek to ameliorate (rather than the "natural" human weaknesses and tendencies to unbridled apatite/desire satiation being the cause of the need for moral principles and ethical philosophy).

Sex is not the evil here.


No one has claimed that it is.

It's the suppression of sex that's evil.


I've never categorized sex as evil. My concern has always been pornography and pornographic sex, and these are only associated with sex qua sex, not defining features of sex qua sex.

In what way do you mean that the suppression of pornography is "evil?" What does the term "evil" signify to you, as a concept?