Does The Lord pick and choose who lives and who dies?

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Does The Lord pick and choose who lives and who dies?

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From an article about three Mormon missionaries who were mown down whilst out riding bikes. Two were killed, one survived.

Stephen Trayner, the mission president of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in McAllen, said he believes Harris is a very strong man.

"He obviously took a tremendous amount of trauma,” Trayner added. “How he survived the accident, we are not certain, but we believe the Lord has allowed him to survive."


http://www.valleycentral.com/news/story.aspx?id=685302

So this Mission President believes that the Lord allowed this Elder to live, but by default, that the Lord chose to let the other two die.

I wonder how the parents of the Missionaries who died feel about the Lord's picking and choosing.
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Re: Does The Lord pick and choose who lives and who dies?

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Could be part of the answer:

And in nothing doth man offend God, or against none is his wrath kindled, save those who confess not his hand in all things, and obey not his commandments.
D&C 59:21
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Re: Does The Lord pick and choose who lives and who dies?

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Are you suggesting the two dead missionaries did not confess God's hand in all things and did not obey his commandments and that is why they died?
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emilysmith wrote:Are you suggesting the two dead missionaries did not confess God's hand in all things and did not obey his commandments and that is why they died?


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Re: Does The Lord pick and choose who lives and who dies?

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subgenius wrote:
emilysmith wrote:Are you suggesting the two dead missionaries did not confess God's hand in all things and did not obey his commandments and that is why they died?


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I, too, am sad that bcspace suggested that these missionaries deserved to die based on that D&C scripture....God seems to be pretty petty when it comes to things like this....
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Are you suggesting the two dead missionaries did not confess God's hand in all things and did not obey his commandments and that is why they died?


No. I was merely suggesting that, according to LDS theology, the Lord did have a hand in it as in two person's time was up, the other's was not. That is all.

I, too, am sad that bcspace suggested that these missionaries deserved to die based on that D&C scripture....God seems to be pretty petty when it comes to things like this....


A little too quick on the draw when it comes to assumptions eh subgenius and schreech?
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