Leftism and the Gospel Continued

[_Droopy]

Can human beings be saved, forgiven, or held responsible for sin as a collective, or are the principles and scope of the Atonement only individual in nature?

Can guilt be collective, and if so, how? Can one person be held accountable for the sins of progenitors, or of others within the community or group to which he belongs, and if so, how can this be reconciled with the plan of salvation and purpose of mortality as taught by the Church?

In the same way, can righteousness be the collective property of a class or group irrespective of individual moral/ethical attributes?

[_moksha]

This seems like a question that is apolitical. A question that can equally be framed as to whether we seek Big Boat salvation where all can climb onto the HMS Salvation bound for the Banquet or a Little Boat where we must float our way alone to this event, and perhaps jab at the other rafts with a pole in order to have a competitive advantage in obtaining a choice seat.

Are we Children of God with the inherent love of a good parent or are we contestants who must make a good show of obedience in order to be deemed worthy?

[_aranyborju]

Can guilt be collective, and if so, how? Can one person be held accountable for the sins of progenitors, or of others within the community or group to which he belongs, and if so, how can this be reconciled with the plan of salvation and purpose of mortality as taught by the Church?

To answer this I would give the example of the Egyptians who suffered plagues and the loss of their first born sons at as a result of Pharaoh's hard heart. Egypt was held collectively guilty and was collectively held accountable for the sins of others.

[_Droopy]

Can guilt be collective, and if so, how? Can one person be held accountable for the sins of progenitors, or of others within the community or group to which he belongs, and if so, how can this be reconciled with the plan of salvation and purpose of mortality as taught by the Church?

To answer this I would give the example of the Egyptians who suffered plagues and the loss of their first born sons at as a result of Pharaoh's hard heart. Egypt was held collectively guilty and was collectively held accountable for the sins of others.

Were they? Is that what the Old Testament says?