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_gdemetz
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Creation

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Tony, I would recommend that you don't take what is shown in the temple literally, and I wish I could go into more details as to why I am stating that, but it is forbidden. The creation went something like this. All things have celestial progenitors which produce naturally spirit offspring. So, initially spirit worlds were created for these offspring. When it came to produce physical worlds, which our spirits took part in creating, and populating them with plants, animals, and man, it went something like this. Celestial plants were placed upon an earth, and with drawing nourishment from the terrestrial world, they produced terrestrial plants (as opposed to spirit plants). Celestial animals went to the world and took nourishment from the terrestrial plants and produced terrestrial animals(as opposed to spirit animals). Christ headed all the creative operations under the direction of His Heavenly Father. However, when it came time to place man physically upon a world, then Heavenly Father was directly involved. He would bring one of His wives and they would partake of the fruit of that world until Their bodies were charged with it, and then the Heavenly Mother would give birth to a terrestrial man or woman (as opposed to a spirit man or woman). And, like all other life forms, the corresponding and appropriate spirit would enter the man or woman at the appointed time, just as the intelligences would enter Heavenly Mother at the appointed time prior to the spirit birth.
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Either you go to a different temple than I did or I was really sleeping through the whole creation part. I certainly don't remember seeing or hearing anything about Heavenly Father bringing one of his wives down to earth and shagging. That would have definitely made the temple experience more interesting for sure.
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son of Ishmael wrote:Either you go to a different temple than I did or I was really sleeping through the whole creation part. I certainly don't remember seeing or hearing anything about Heavenly Father bringing one of his wives down to earth and shagging. That would have definitely made the temple experience more interesting for sure.
You have to pay extra to see that.
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Tobin wrote:
son of Ishmael wrote:Either you go to a different temple than I did or I was really sleeping through the whole creation part. I certainly don't remember seeing or hearing anything about Heavenly Father bringing one of his wives down to earth and shagging. That would have definitely made the temple experience more interesting for sure.
You have to pay extra to see that.



So, what you have to put quarters in a machine or something like that?
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. - Galileo

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. - The Dude

Don't you know there ain't no devil, there's just god when he's drunk - Tom Waits
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That's why I said that you can't take what you saw in the temple literally. That prophets have taught what I stated. The temple teaches a symbolic cartoon like primary version.
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So, when it says that god created adam and eve what it really meant was...that god and goddess apparated down to earth to break a rule they made for themselves so they could become temporarily mortal and have a bunch of babies that could have incest babies together to populate the earth.

God and Goddess brought sin into the world...so that God could send Jesus to be murdered because God brought death into the world and he can't admit anyone into his presence unless Jesus got killed. Jesus getting killed is the only way God can accept the rest of us humans for sinning and being fallen since God brought sin and the fallen state into the world. Cause god is perfect.

Yeah, I can see how that makes perfect, logical sense.
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They didn't become temporarily mortal. No one becomes "decelestialized" and "unresurrected." That's how they produced physical tabernacles (as opposed to spirit bodies) for all the first parents of the various worlds, by eating of the "dust," or coarse material of the terrestrial world. That's why the Bible states that Adam was made from the dust of the earth and that he is also a son of God (see Luke 3:38).
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just me wrote:So, when it says that god created adam and eve what it really meant was...that god and goddess apparated down to earth to break a rule they made for themselves so they could become temporarily mortal and have a bunch of babies that could have incest babies together to populate the earth.

God and Goddess brought sin into the world...so that God could send Jesus to be murdered because God brought death into the world and he can't admit anyone into his presence unless Jesus got killed. Jesus getting killed is the only way God can accept the rest of us humans for sinning and being fallen since God brought sin and the fallen state into the world. Cause god is perfect.

Yeah, I can see how that makes perfect, logical sense.


WOW! When you say it like that it really does all fit together
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. - Galileo

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. - The Dude

Don't you know there ain't no devil, there's just god when he's drunk - Tom Waits
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gdemetz is firmly in the BY school of thinking. I really don't know many Mormons nowdays that are since he was a racist, bigot, and spouted a ton of non-sense like this. Most Mormons run away from what he had to say as fast as they can.

Personally, I don't see much use for a God that is so primitive he has to procreate like a common animal. I also think it reflects poorly on those that espouse such beliefs.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
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son of Ishmael wrote:Either you go to a different temple than I did or I was really sleeping through the whole creation part. I certainly don't remember seeing or hearing anything about Heavenly Father bringing one of his wives down to earth and shagging.

Everything gdemetz recited was part of the Adam-God doctrine. No, I'm not joking.
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"

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