Contradictions Between Book of Mormon, D&C, and POGP?
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Contradictions Between Book of Mormon, D&C, and POGP?
Are there any obvious contradictions between the Book of Mormon, The Pearl of Great Price, and The D&C???
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Re: Contradictions Between Book of Mormon, D&C, and POGP?
Aw, come on apostates! Try hard to find something! Surely there must be something that you can at least twist the meaning of!!!
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I admit, a lot of those statements seem like contradictions, but if you look into all the teachings and statements deeply, I believe they can all fit in the scheme of things. For example, the seeming contradiction about an unchangeable God, I would explain this way. It is true that God was once a man like us, however, once He reached His lofty status as our Heavenly Father (God), then He has been unchangeable.
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The concept of an unchangeable god confuses me. Pardon my simplicity.
Eternal progression seems inconsistent with unchangeability.
God seems to have changed a number of times.
D&C 58:21 teaches: “Let no man break the laws of the land, for he that keepeth the laws of God hath no need to break the laws of the land.” But D&C commands men to break the laws of the land by taking plural wives.
In D&C 84 the Lord declares without qualification the he will build his house in “this generation” in Jackson County. This was not a request nor was it a commandment, it was a declaration of what He, the Lord God Omnipotent, would do — but which He did not do.
These are but a few of the instances where God seems to change.
How does one square a very changeable unchangeable God?
Eternal progression seems inconsistent with unchangeability.
God seems to have changed a number of times.
D&C 58:21 teaches: “Let no man break the laws of the land, for he that keepeth the laws of God hath no need to break the laws of the land.” But D&C commands men to break the laws of the land by taking plural wives.
In D&C 84 the Lord declares without qualification the he will build his house in “this generation” in Jackson County. This was not a request nor was it a commandment, it was a declaration of what He, the Lord God Omnipotent, would do — but which He did not do.
These are but a few of the instances where God seems to change.
How does one square a very changeable unchangeable God?
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gdemetz wrote:I admit, a lot of those statements seem like contradictions, but if you look into all the teachings and statements deeply, I believe they can all fit in the scheme of things. For example, the seeming contradiction about an unchangeable God, I would explain this way. It is true that God was once a man like us, however, once He reached His lofty status as our Heavenly Father (God), then He has been unchangeable.
Then why was polygamy good and then bad?
Why was being black bad and then good?
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But, was Elder Christofferson just giving his own opinion, or was he speaking with apostolic authority? In any case, if God is unchangeable, any changes announced by the apostles are self-evidently false. Isn't it interesting that the Church and church apologists never, never, never address specific changes. Rather, they speak in meaningless platitudes or refer to someone else's meaningless platitudes.
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What this term "unchangeable" when it applies to God, is that He would always do the same thing, the right thing, in the same circumstances. Concerning the practice of polygamy, God didn't all of a sudden say; "You know, when I was a younger God I sinned by allowing some ole Mormon doctrine known as polygamy, but since then I have changed and grown up, and now I have repented!" Yes indeed, that would be a changeable God! However, God's judgments are unchangeable. In certain circumstances He would always allow polygamy, and in certain other circumstances, He would always deny the practice. The Book of Mormon states that if God would not be just, or if He were changeable, He would cease to be God. Why? Because all of the little intelligences in the universe which constitute the "light of Christ" would no longer support Him and His power would dissolve. Don't worry though, I'm sure that will never happen!
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gdemetz wrote:What this term "unchangeable" when it applies to God, is that He would always do the same thing, the right thing, in the same circumstances. Concerning the practice of polygamy, God didn't all of a sudden say; "You know, when I was a younger God I sinned by allowing some ole Mormon doctrine known as polygamy, but since then I have changed and grown up, and now I have repented!" Yes indeed, that would be a changeable God! However, God's judgments are unchangeable. In certain circumstances He would always allow polygamy, and in certain other circumstances, He would always deny the practice. The Book of Mormon states that if God would not be just, or if He were changeable, He would cease to be God. Why? Because all of the little intelligences in the universe which constitute the "light of Christ" would no longer support Him and His power would dissolve. Don't worry though, I'm sure that will never happen!
Isn't it funny that God decided to stop Polygamy shortly after the US government had reached the same conclusion...and that God decided the Priesthood Ban was wrong years after most people and governments planet had already decided segregation by skin colour was wrong. Bit slow your God.
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Re: Contradictions Between Book of Mormon, D&C, and POGP?
He must still be a quite young, inexperienced god.