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Verse 1 for (God) declares, GOD! There is no trying to prove God exists. God just is ----take it or leave it. And He is the force that creates and starts the ball rolling... By "heavens and earth," I see space, orientation, and matter.
And with "in the beginning," I see the pendulum of time started into motion... What say you?

New International Version (©1984)
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

New Living Translation (©2007)
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

English Standard Version (©2001)
In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
In the beginning God created heaven and earth.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

American King James Version
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

American Standard Version
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Douay-Rheims Bible
In the beginning God created heaven, and earth.

Darby Bible Translation
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

English Revised Version
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Webster's Bible Translation
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

World English Bible
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Young's Literal Translation
In the beginning of God's preparing the heavens and the earth --

LittleNipper wrote:Verse 1 for me declares, GOD! There is no trying to prove God exists. God just is ----take it or leave it. And He is the force that creates and starts the ball rolling... By "heavens and earth," I see space, orientation, and matter.
And with "in the beginning," I see the pendulum of time started into motion... What say you?

Hi LittleNipper! Welcome to the board.

OK. I usually save some room in my mind for the existence of a God, but if you want to put it that way, I'll leave it rather than take it. There needs to be some proof or there is no reason to believe it.

The Bible (any version you would like to quote) is a collection of stories from a few thousand years ago. There has to be something other than "I said so" to make the postulation worth considering. Even the Bible doesn't claim itself to be the true word of God.

On the other hand, it doesn't say that a council of gods assembled the earth from pre-existing material.

MCB wrote:On the other hand, it doesn't say that a council of gods assembled the earth from pre-existing material.

We all know it was two white mice who created the earth.

MCB wrote:On the other hand, it doesn't say that a council of gods assembled the earth from pre-existing material.

I will give it that. Plus, we really don't know who wrote all those books of the Bible. We do, however, know who wrote that other book. Not someone whose word I would trust.

Themis wrote:

MCB wrote:On the other hand, it doesn't say that a council of gods assembled the earth from pre-existing material.

We all know it was two white mice who created the earth.

When will "a hitchhiker's guide" finally be canonized?

Quasimodo wrote:There has to be something other than "I said so" to make the postulation worth considering.

Yup

LittleNipper wrote:God just is ----take it or leave it.

I'll leave it...

Quasimodo wrote:

LittleNipper wrote:Verse 1 for me declares, GOD! There is no trying to prove God exists. God just is ----take it or leave it. And He is the force that creates and starts the ball rolling... By "heavens and earth," I see space, orientation, and matter.
And with "in the beginning," I see the pendulum of time started into motion... What say you?

Hi LittleNipper! Welcome to the board.

OK. I usually save some room in my mind for the existence of a God, but if you want to put it that way, I'll leave it rather than take it. There needs to be some proof or there is no reason to believe it.

The Bible (any version you would like to quote) is a collection of stories from a few thousand years ago. There has to be something other than "I said so" to make the postulation worth considering. Even the Bible doesn't claim itself to be the true word of God.

Thanks, for your welcome. The truth is I see life on this planet. And science cannot provide a logical reason how it started or why scientists cannot seem to duplicate what would have to be a "simple" process, if it originated on its own with only nudges from "Mother Nature." I believe Job is the oldest book of the Bible --- many date it from 1900 to 1700 BC. Before this there seems likely to have been both an oral and constellation association tradition that was handed down from the time of Adam forward... Obviously, I cannot make you believe anything, but perhaps God will use discussions (such as this ) to plant seeds of faith to draw you. The Bible does say that in the beginning was the Word and the Word became flesh and dwelt among men.

LittleNipper wrote:Thanks, for your welcome. The truth is I see life on this planet. And science cannot provide a logical reason how it started or why scientists cannot seem to duplicate what would have to be a "simple" process, if it originated on its own with only nudges from "Mother Nature." I believe Job is the oldest book of the Bible --- many date it from 1900 to 1700 BC. Before this there seems likely to have been both an oral and constellation association tradition that was handed down from the time of Adam forward... Obviously, I cannot make you believe anything, but perhaps God will use discussions (such as this ) to plant seeds of faith to draw you. The Bible does say that in the beginning was the Word and the Word became flesh and dwelt among men.

It's a very long stretch from "science cannot provide a logical reason" to a Biblical explanation is true. It is true that science does not give an explanation of the origin of life on this planet. That's because science does not speculate. It only states what it knows. Religion claims to already know the answers without giving any proofs.

There are other religions and scriptures much older than the Bible. The Vedas (Hindu scripture) are nearly twice as old. Why don't you believe them?