I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many wives and concubines—
So D&C 132 states that God really approved of the polygamy of David and Solomon.
But Jacob in the Book of Mormon stated...
24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
And also...
More recently, President Gordon B. Hinckley has reiterated that plural marriage is “against the law of God. Even in countries where civil or religious law allows [the practice of a man having more than one wife], the Church teaches that marriage must be monogamous and does not accept into its membership those practicing plural marriage” (“What Are People Asking about Us?” Oct. 1998 general conference). [LDS.org]
It's almost as if Joseph wrote about it being okay because he personally wanted to do it. Or perhaps God is just fickle and can't make His mind up....
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I have brought up this very point countless times. The scriptures are clearly conflicting. My understanding as far as Old Testament polygamy was concerned, is that it was a cultural phenomenon, and royalty, such as David, inherited wives and concubines based on their status.
This was not something that the Lord intended to have reinstated. Joseph clearly reinstated it for his own purposes.
Drifting wrote:...Or perhaps God is just fickle and can't make His mind up....
another inadequate, or incomplete, statement about the nature of God. You, conveniently, disregard the well-supported notion that God may, can, and has "change His mind". For example names may be written in and deleted from the Book of Life.
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liz3564 wrote:I have brought up this very point countless times. The scriptures are clearly conflicting. My understanding as far as Old Testament polygamy was concerned, is that it was a cultural phenomenon, and royalty, such as David, inherited wives and concubines based on their status.
This was not something that the Lord intended to have reinstated. Joseph clearly reinstated it for his own purposes.
1. What are the "conflicts" in the scriptures that you are referring to? 2. If Joseph "reinstated" it...then when, and by whom, was it "un-instated" 3. I appreciate your speculation that it was reinstated for Joseph's own purposes, but it is purely speculation...do you have any actual evidence? or is it just a "feeling" you have, you know...a sort of burning in your bosom?
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
Drifting wrote:...Or perhaps God is just fickle and can't make His mind up....
another inadequate, or incomplete, statement about the nature of God. You, conveniently, disregard the well-supported notion that God may, can, and has "change His mind". For example names may be written in and deleted from the Book of Life.
Well, everyones name is written in the Book of Life at the beginning. However, when a person sins with intent, his name is removed from the Book of Life. Only when one becomes saved is that person's name then written in the LAMB's Book of Life ---- Permanently. This is why I believe babies who die go to heaven to the arms of God. Though they have not made a decision to accept Christ, they have not rejected Him either. Any sin babies commit is without intent and their names remain in the Book of Life.
I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many wives and concubines—
So D&C 132 states that God really approved of the polygamy of David and Solomon.
But Jacob in the Book of Mormon stated...
24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
And also...
More recently, President Gordon B. Hinckley has reiterated that plural marriage is “against the law of God. Even in countries where civil or religious law allows [the practice of a man having more than one wife], the Church teaches that marriage must be monogamous and does not accept into its membership those practicing plural marriage” (“What Are People Asking about Us?” Oct. 1998 general conference). [LDS.org]
It's almost as if Joseph wrote about it being okay because he personally wanted to do it. Or perhaps God is just fickle and can't make His mind up....
Yeah. If God had really wanted Joseph Smith to practice plural marriage, why did deny that he was doing it all the way up to his death? Shouldn't a true prophet of God be declaring God's words from the roof tops like they did in the good old days?
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LittleNipper wrote:Well, everyones name is written in the Book of Life at the beginning. However, when a person sins with intent, his name is removed from the Book of Life. Only when one becomes saved is that person's name then written in the LAMB's Book of Life ---- Permanently. This is why I believe babies who die go to heaven to the arms of God. Though they have not made a decision to accept Christ, they have not rejected Him either. Any sin babies commit is without intent and their names remain in the Book of Life.
I can't think of any unintentional sins committed by babies... any suggestions?
LittleNipper wrote:Babies are also very self-centered. It is part of their nature.
Does that make a baby sinful?
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