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Faith springs eternal and is reaffirmed
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:50 am
by _moksha
Guest commentary: Joseph Smith’s flaws don’t make Mormonism a fraud By MELISSA INOUYE
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54327371-78/joseph-smith-church-faith.html.cspMelissa Inouye has created a brilliant analogy by comparing sour dough starter to the founding of the LDS Church. The starting concoction of wild yeast and bacteria may be stinky, but if the bread mixture is handled properly, you are left with what can be a tasty product.
Re: Faith springs eternal and is reaffirmed
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:38 am
by _ludwigm
moksha wrote:Guest commentary: Joseph Smith’s flaws don’t make Mormonism a fraud By MELISSA INOUYE
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54327371-78/joseph-smith-church-faith.html.cspMelissa Inouye has created a brilliant analogy by comparing sour dough starter to the founding of the LDS Church. The starting concoction of wild yeast and bacteria may be stinky, but if the bread mixture is handled properly, you are left with what can be a tasty product.
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At the time I watched the comments there, there were 666 of them. (No, the BEAST is sleeping...)
I've read only the first one:
somebody wrote:The fact that a religious tradition works for you on a cultural level doesn't make it valid or true, it just means that your life is wrapped up in it to the point that you're beyond caring about the facts. the historical record is available, and any rational observer can see the mosaic of lies and absurdity surrounding the origin of Mormonism. some just choose to sleep better at night by making up absurd analogies like bread making. this is a joke of a piece.
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I've read somewhere, at one time:
"A kingdom founded by a demented person - crazy? lunatic? - can be as valid as other ones."
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Please visit
10 Crazy RoyalsWhen someone is talked about as being crazy, they usually aren’t the ones calling the shots. However, there have been a few notable cases of these mad men or women, all of royal blood, ruling countries, much to the chagrin of their subjects or much to the delight of their parents who act as regents. Luckily it hasn’t happened all that recently – can you imagine the posh padding required to hold an insane royal?
And hopefully these 10 wackos will stay in the recesses of history and not pop up again – you know the whole history repeating itself?
10. George III of the United Kingdom
9. Peter III of Russia
8. Princess Alexandra Amalie of Bavaria
7.
Ludwig II of Bavaria
(I am sorry... so sorry... please...)6. Otto of Bavaria
5. Juana of Castile
4. Charles VI of France
3. Carlos II of Spain
2. Afonso (Alfonso) VI of Portugal
1. Charles IX of France
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S could have been the life and soul of the company.
Ps.
A little excuse:
Ludwig II of Bavaria has built
Neuschwanstein Castle
Re: Faith springs eternal and is reaffirmed
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:30 pm
by _Rick
The opinions of a few "lunatics" commenting on a Salt Lake Trib article don't make Mormonism a fraud either.
Re: Faith springs eternal and is reaffirmed
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:39 pm
by _ludwigm
Rick wrote:The opinions of a few "lunatics" commenting on a Salt Lake Trib article don't make Mormonism a fraud either.
It is (can be, if You want to phrase this way... ) a fraud without them.
Re: Faith springs eternal and is reaffirmed
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:50 pm
by _Rick
ludwigm wrote:Rick wrote:The opinions of a few "lunatics" commenting on a Salt Lake Trib article don't make Mormonism a fraud either.
It is (can be, if You want to phrase this way... ) a fraud without them.
That's your opinion, not fact. There is no proof it is a fraud, nor will there ever be. You want proof that Joseph was a prophet and that the Book of Mormon is what it claims to be but yet you cannot provide proof to the contrary, so it comes down to you wanting it not to be true, plain and simple.
Re: Faith springs eternal and is reaffirmed
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:39 pm
by _ludwigm
Rick wrote:The opinions of a few "lunatics" commenting on a Salt Lake Trib article don't make Mormonism a fraud either.
ludwigm wrote:It is (can be, if You want to phrase this way... ) a fraud without them.
That's your opinion
Yes, it is.
, not fact. There is no proof it is a fraud, nor will there ever be.
That's your opinion.
You want proof that Joseph was a prophet and that the Book of Mormon is what it claims to be
No, I don't want proof. As my grandchildrens don't want proof against Easter Bunny. (The ones older than four...)
I don't care josephs and warrenjeffs' and reverendmoons and that bunch of "prophets".
They fend for themselves...
but yet you cannot provide proof to the contrary, so it comes down to you wanting it not to be true, plain and simple.
I can not provide proof against Santa and his reindeers. I should not. Plain and simple.
You are the one who want it (Mormonism, as is) to be true, plain and simple.
Re: Faith springs eternal and is reaffirmed
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:30 pm
by _moksha
ludwigm wrote:I can not provide proof against Santa and his reindeers. I should not. Plain and simple.
You are the one who want it (Mormonism, as is) to be true, plain and simple.
Ludwigm, there is great truth in what you say. One corresponding American saying is "whatever blows your hair back" is right for you. Some people like to open their egg on the little end and some prefer the big end. The important thing is for the people of Lilliput to not go to war over the egg.
Re: Faith springs eternal and is reaffirmed
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:51 am
by _ludwigm
moksha wrote:Some people like to open their egg on the little end and some prefer the big end. The important thing is for the people of Lilliput to not go to war over the egg.
Yes.
11 We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may - but we send out thousands of missionaries to prove that they are all wrong, and should change.
by the way opening the egg...
Swift in the XVIII century prophesied the two ways of data storing in computers.
The
big endian and the
little endian.
And here is an offtopic flying penguin, to You:
Re: Faith springs eternal and is reaffirmed
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:56 pm
by _bcuzbcuz
ludwigm wrote:[
And here is an offtopic flying penguin, to You:
Eggs have no ends. We from Middleputt believe that eggs should be broken from the middle, preferably with the yellow yolk divided equally. No egg half should be without taste!
Re: Faith springs eternal and is reaffirmed
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:51 am
by _ludwigm
bcuzbcuz wrote:Eggs have no ends. We from Middleputt believe that eggs should be broken from the middle, preferably with the yellow yolk divided equally. No egg half should be without taste!
Revelation 3 wrote:15. I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.