I ask because it is alleged that a senior BYU educator has presented that:
The words appearing on the rock weren't even from the 19th century, but from the 16th and 17th century. He {Skousen} said that the Book of Mormon was actually translated about 150 years before Joseph Smith was born and that the translation done in about 1600 A.D. was "delivered" to him in 1829. I don't really understand that, but it is what he {Skousen} said. I"m sure I didn't misunderstand. That is what he {Skousen} said: the Book of Mormon was translated 150 years before Joseph Smith was born!
(quote from a transcript of poster "Garbo's" short hand notes of the fireside held in Cedar City by Royal Skousen)
Royal Jon Skousen[1] (born August 5, 1945)[2] is a professor of linguistics and English at Brigham Young University (BYU), where he is editor of the Book of Mormon Critical Text Project. He is "the leading expert on the textual history of the Book of Mormon"[3] and the founder of the Analogical Modeling approach to language modeling.
Is there any merit in this seemingly unfounded (potentially apostate) speculation?
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Drifting wrote:I ask because it is alleged that a senior BYU educator has presented that:
The words appearing on the rock weren't even from the 19th century, but from the 16th and 17th century. He {Skousen} said that the Book of Mormon was actually translated about 150 years before Joseph Smith was born and that the translation done in about 1600 A.D. was "delivered" to him in 1829. I don't really understand that, but it is what he {Skousen} said. I"m sure I didn't misunderstand. That is what he {Skousen} said: the Book of Mormon was translated 150 years before Joseph Smith was born!
(quote from a transcript of poster "Garbo's" short hand notes of the fireside held in Cedar City by Royal Skousen)
Royal Jon Skousen[1] (born August 5, 1945)[2] is a professor of linguistics and English at Brigham Young University (BYU), where he is editor of the Book of Mormon Critical Text Project. He is "the leading expert on the textual history of the Book of Mormon"[3] and the founder of the Analogical Modeling approach to language modeling.
Is there any merit in this seemingly unfounded (potentially apostate) speculation?
That is a first for me.
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. - Galileo
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. - The Dude
Don't you know there ain't no devil, there's just god when he's drunk - Tom Waits
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
Drifting wrote: Is there any merit in this seemingly unfounded (potentially apostate) speculation?
Do we have a direct quote from RK?
I don't know who RK is?
I lifted the notes transcripted by someone who posts here (Garbo) who attended the fireside. This poster is clear that was Skousen's position and put such forward at the fireside.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
I lifted the notes transcripted by someone who posts here (Garbo) who attended the fireside. This poster is clear that was Skousen's position and put such forward at the fireside.
Sorry should have said Relief Society. Do we have a direct quote from Royal Skousen. I would be a little skeptical until I see one.
I lifted the notes transcripted by someone who posts here (Garbo) who attended the fireside. This poster is clear that was Skousen's position and put such forward at the fireside.
Sorry should have said Relief Society. Do we have a direct quote from Royal Skousen. I would be a little skeptical until I see one.
I'd like to see more on this, too. If this is true it seems like a pretty huge claim and a very large departure from orthodoxy.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
just me wrote: I'd like to see more on this, too. If this is true it seems like a pretty huge claim and a very large departure from orthodoxy.
I would wonder why Relief Society would even think to come up with an earlier translation. If true I suspect apologetic desperation to explain the Book of Mormon language Joseph uses. Funny that it fits like everything else does, to Joseph making it all up.