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The Book of Mormon was translated when...?
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:31 pm
by _Drifting
I ask because it is alleged that a senior BYU educator has presented that:
The words appearing on the rock weren't even from the 19th century, but from the 16th and 17th century. He {Skousen} said that the Book of Mormon was actually translated about 150 years before Joseph Smith was born and that the translation done in about 1600 A.D. was "delivered" to him in 1829. I don't really understand that, but it is what he {Skousen} said. I"m sure I didn't misunderstand. That is what he {Skousen} said: the Book of Mormon was translated 150 years before Joseph Smith was born!
(quote from a transcript of poster "Garbo's" short hand notes of the fireside held in Cedar City by Royal Skousen)
Royal Jon Skousen[1] (born August 5, 1945)[2] is a professor of linguistics and English at Brigham Young University (BYU), where he is editor of the Book of Mormon Critical Text Project. He is "the leading expert on the textual history of the Book of Mormon"[3] and the founder of the Analogical Modeling approach to language modeling.Is there any merit in this seemingly unfounded (potentially apostate) speculation?
Re: The Book of Mormon was translated when...?
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:27 pm
by _son of Ishmael
Drifting wrote:I ask because it is alleged that a senior BYU educator has presented that:
The words appearing on the rock weren't even from the 19th century, but from the 16th and 17th century. He {Skousen} said that the Book of Mormon was actually translated about 150 years before Joseph Smith was born and that the translation done in about 1600 A.D. was "delivered" to him in 1829. I don't really understand that, but it is what he {Skousen} said. I"m sure I didn't misunderstand. That is what he {Skousen} said: the Book of Mormon was translated 150 years before Joseph Smith was born!
(quote from a transcript of poster "Garbo's" short hand notes of the fireside held in Cedar City by Royal Skousen)
Royal Jon Skousen[1] (born August 5, 1945)[2] is a professor of linguistics and English at Brigham Young University (BYU), where he is editor of the Book of Mormon Critical Text Project. He is "the leading expert on the textual history of the Book of Mormon"[3] and the founder of the Analogical Modeling approach to language modeling.Is there any merit in this seemingly unfounded (potentially apostate) speculation?
That is a first for me.
Re: The Book of Mormon was translated when...?
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:07 pm
by _just me
WOT?!?!?!
Someone has some explaining to do!
Re: The Book of Mormon was translated when...?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:05 am
by _Themis
Drifting wrote:
Is there any merit in this seemingly unfounded (potentially apostate) speculation?
Do we have a direct quote from RK?
Re: The Book of Mormon was translated when...?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:14 am
by _Drifting
Themis wrote:Drifting wrote:
Is there any merit in this seemingly unfounded (potentially apostate) speculation?
Do we have a direct quote from RK?
I don't know who RK is?
I lifted the notes transcripted by someone who posts here (Garbo) who attended the fireside. This poster is clear that was Skousen's position and put such forward at the fireside.
Re: The Book of Mormon was translated when...?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:02 pm
by _Themis
Drifting wrote:
I don't know who RK is?
I lifted the notes transcripted by someone who posts here (Garbo) who attended the fireside. This poster is clear that was Skousen's position and put such forward at the fireside.
Sorry should have said Relief Society. Do we have a direct quote from Royal Skousen. I would be a little skeptical until I see one.
Re: The Book of Mormon was translated when...?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:04 pm
by _just me
Themis wrote:Drifting wrote:
I don't know who RK is?
I lifted the notes transcripted by someone who posts here (Garbo) who attended the fireside. This poster is clear that was Skousen's position and put such forward at the fireside.
Sorry should have said Relief Society. Do we have a direct quote from Royal Skousen. I would be a little skeptical until I see one.
I'd like to see more on this, too. If this is true it seems like a pretty huge claim and a very large departure from orthodoxy.
Re: The Book of Mormon was translated when...?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:12 pm
by _Themis
just me wrote:
I'd like to see more on this, too. If this is true it seems like a pretty huge claim and a very large departure from orthodoxy.
I would wonder why Relief Society would even think to come up with an earlier translation. If true I suspect apologetic desperation to explain the Book of Mormon language Joseph uses. Funny that it fits like everything else does, to Joseph making it all up.