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I was reading Genesis 19 today, and I was wondering if Joseph (or any of his successors in the first presidency) ever had any further revelation on the two angels who visited Sodom.

In the previous chapter, three men are mentioned--were two of them these angels?

Could they have been Adam and Noah?

Seems like Joseph would have put that in the Bible changes he made if he came up with names for them.

Maybe it was Adam and Michael. ;)

In Genesis 18, it identifies one angel as Jehovah God, but never identifies the two angels. Since Jehovah is the most importand there. Three men appear One is identified as Jehovah the other two 19:1 were angels

Gen. 18:

1 Afterward Jehovah appeared to him among the big trees of Mam´re, while he was sitting at the entrance of the tent about the heat of the day. 2 When he raised his eyes, then he looked and there three men were standing some distance from him. When he caught sight of them he began running to meet them from the entrance of the tent and proceeded to bow down to the earth. 3 Then he said: “Jehovah, if, now, I have found favor in your eyes, please do not pass by your servant. 13 Then Jehovah said to Abraham: “Why was it that Sarah laughed, saying, ‘Shall I really and truly give birth although I have become old?’ 14 Is anything too extraordinary for Jehovah? At the appointed time I shall return to you, next year at this time, and Sarah will have a son.” 17 And Jehovah said: “Am I keeping covered from Abraham what I am doing?
20 Consequently Jehovah said: “The cry of complaint about Sod´om and Go•mor´rah, yes, it is loud, and their sin, yes, it is very heavy.
22 At this point the men turned from there and got on their way to Sod´om; but as for Jehovah, he was still standing before Abraham. 26Then Jehovah said: “If I shall find in Sod´om fifty righteous men in the midst of the city I will pardon the whole place on their account.” 27But Abraham went on to answer and say: “Please, here I have taken upon myself to speak to Jehovah, whereas I am dust and ashes. 31 But he continued on: “Please, here I have taken upon myself to speak to Jehovah: Suppose twenty are found there.” In turn he said: “I shall not bring it to ruin on account of the twenty.” 32 Finally he said: “May Jehovah, please, not grow hot with anger, but let me speak just this once: Suppose ten are found there.” In turn he said: “I shall not bring it to ruin on account of the ten.” 33 Then Jehovah went his way when he had finished speaking to Abraham, and Abraham returned to his place.
Genesis 19:1-38

1 Now the two angels arrived at Sod´om by evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sod´om.

What was left of a great southern band knew all about sodom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo5C1zOK16w

just me wrote:Seems like Joseph would have put that in the Bible changes he made if he came up with names for them.

Maybe it was Adam and Michael. ;)

Elijah and Elisha perhaps...

Drifting wrote:

just me wrote:Seems like Joseph would have put that in the Bible changes he made if he came up with names for them.

Maybe it was Adam and Michael. ;)

Elijah and Elisha perhaps...

No.

Elijah and Elias... (D&C 110)
Isaiah and Esaias... (D&C76:100)
And, please don't forget Jeremy, D&C 84:11, who have a typical English name. The KJV uses Jeremiah, Jeremias and Jeremy...

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wrote:Jeremias or Jeremy. Matt. 16:14; 27:9; = Jeremiah. There was another Jeremy who lived near the time of Abraham, and who held the Melchizedek Priesthood. Nothing more is known of him today. D&C 84:9–10

Another Jeremy, another Esaias, another Elias (a dozen eliases...)

And thousands of another god...

2. ELIAS A NAME FOR ELIJAH. — Elias is the Greek form of Elijah. This leads to some confusion and the necessity of determining whether Elijah or someone else is meant in each passage where the name Elias appears. Such a determination is not difficult, however, when the full doctrine of Elias and Elijah is understood
Correcting the Bible by the spirit of revelation, the Prophet restored a statement of John the Baptist which says that Christ is the Elias who was to restore all things. (Inspired Version, John 1:21-28.) By revelation we are also informed that the Elias who was to restore all things is the angel Gabriel who was known in mortality as Noah. (D. & C. 27:6-7; Luke 1:5-25; Teachings, p. 157.) From the same authentic source we also learn that the promised Elias is John the Revelator. (D. & C. 77: 9, 14.) Thus there are three different revelations which name Elias as being three different persons. What are we to conclude?
At least the following have come: Moroni, John the Baptist, Peter, James, and John, Moses, Elijah, Elias, Gabriel, Raphael, and Michael. (D. & C. 13; 110; 128:19-21.) Since it is apparent that no one messenger has carried the whole burden of the restoration, but rather that each has come with a specific endowment from on high, it becomes clear that Elias is a composite personage. The expression must be understood to be a name and a title for those whose mission it was to commit keys and powers to men in this final dispensation. (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, pp. 170-174.)
Two true gospels are spoken of in the revelations and have been revealed to men as occasions have warranted; one is the fulness of the everlasting gospel (Rev. 14:6; D. & C. 14: 10), the other is the preparatory gospel. (D. & C. 84:26-27.)

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So, back to the OP. If your neighbors threatened to rape your angelic visitors would you throw them your virgin daughters instead?

Can an angelic visitor even be raped?

Things to ponder.

Matthew 11:
11 “Assuredly, I say to you, among those born of women there has not risen one greater than John the Baptist; but he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. 12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force. 13For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. 14 And if you are willing to receive it, he is Elijah who is to come. 15He who has ears to hear, let him hear![/b

]Mark 9:
11 And they asked Him, saying, “Why do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?”
12 Then He answered and told them, “Indeed, Elijah is coming first and restores all things. And how is it written concerning the Son of Man, that He must suffer many things and be treated with contempt? 13 [b]But I say to you that Elijah has also come, and they did to him whatever they wished, as it is written of him.”

Luke 1:
17 He will also go before Him in the spirit and power of Elijah, ‘to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children,’ and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just, to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.”

Jesus said John the Baptist was Elijah:



Matthew 17:10 Then his disciples asked him, “Why do the teachers of religious law insist that Elijah must return before the Messiah comes?”