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The 5 billion dollar humanitarian challenge....
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:06 am
by _Drifting
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
Keith McMullin 17 years Presiding BishopricIn the other thread about the Business Week article which lets the financial cat out of the Mormon Church's bag, it has been defended by some on the basis that had the money been used elsewhere it would not have had any impact due to corrupt or wasteful charities and Governments.
Okay, that is an argument for what the Church CAN'T do.
This thread is about seeing what the Church CAN do.
So here's the challenge: Can you find a humanitarian project(s) where $5 billion would have a bigger impact on temporal needs than Christ's (He heads the Church right?) decision to spend it on providing jobs for 2,000 Salt Lake City residents and a more upmarket fashion and trinket Mall for those in Salt Lake City with the disposable income to spend there?
For reference, here is a description of how Jesus (according to theresiding Bishopric) decided to look after the poor and the needy.
In the heart of Salt Lake City, City Creek Center is the retail centerpiece of one of the nation's largest mixed-use downtown redevelopment projects. This unique shopping environment features a retractable glass roof, a creek that runs through the property, a pedestrian skybridge and more. This world-class fashion and dining destination offers over 90 stores and restaurants including Nordstrom, Macy's, Tiffany & Co., Michael Kors, Coach, and Texas de Brazil Churrascaria, in a casual, pedestrian-friendly environment.
Re: The 5 billion dollar humanitarian challenge....
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:12 am
by _Drifting
I will kick off proceedings by suggesting the following organization would have been able to put $5 billion to better use in terms of improvering the temporal needs of impoverished people than the City Creek Mall project.
FROM AROUND THE CORNER TO AROUND THE WORLD...
Each year, armed conflict and natural disasters separate millions of people from their families, when they are needed most. The American Red Cross of the Greater Salt Lake Area helps families reconnect around the world - from delivering personal messages to families separated across international boundaries by war and civil unrest to re-establishing communications for family members separated by war and disaster.
Disaster Services
Temporary Sheltering/Housing, Mental Health Assistance, Financial Assistance, Health Services. This is offered 24/7.
Service to the Armed Forces (SAF)
Emergency Communication, Financial Assistance, Military Tracing. This is offered 24/7.
International Tracing: Find a Family Member
Search for family members who have been separated by war or natural disaster
If you are the victim of war or disaster or have been separated from your family due to war or disaster, the American Red Cross of the Greater Salt Lake Area can help you. For more information (801) 323-7000.
http://www.utahredcross.org/general_cal ... I2OD6QV708
Re: The 5 billion dollar humanitarian challenge....
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:52 pm
by _son of Ishmael
There are a lot of legitimate micro loan programs out there that could have used some of that money. The beauty about micro loans is that they pay them back and that same money can be used over and over again.
I donate each month to a micro loan program. I get to review different applicants and then contribute to their loan requests.
With just a few million of that five billion, the church could have started a similar program and had an immediate impact on hundreds of thousands poor people throughout the world. And it is in line with the church’s philosophy of helping people help themselves
Re: The 5 billion dollar humanitarian challenge....
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:10 pm
by _Yoda
Or, if the Church wanted to provide for its own members, if that money had been poured back into the Bishop's Storehouses around the world, I am sure that members who are struggling with the economy right now would appreciate being able to expand their food orders.
What is frustrating with this project is that members are being told to cut corners and do without while the prophet is cutting a ribbon on a mall and saying, "Let's go shopping.."
Re: The 5 billion dollar humanitarian challenge....
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:48 am
by _son of Ishmael
If anyone is interested in micro-loans, I recommend kiva.org
Re: The 5 billion dollar humanitarian challenge....
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:35 pm
by _Drifting
From the blog of
Hedinn Halldorsson
"I'm the Emergency Communications Manager for Save the Children in Denmark"
I’ve been following the food crisis in west Africa since its very onset, and that means figures. Both unpleasant and pleasant figures, because behind every number there is a person of flesh and blood.
Numbers rising
I’ve watched as the numbers of the affected has risen from 9 million to 13, from 15 million to the current figure; more than18 million. These are big numbers to get your head around.
There are 246 million people living in the Sahel region and out of those, more than 18 million are at risk of hunger . Most of them, or 6.4 million, live in Niger, while the lowest number of the affected are in Gambia, or 240,000. Is 240,000 a low number?
My organisation, Save the Children, plans to reach 1.5 million of the affected. That’s 8% of the total number of those that are thought to be at risk in all nine countries affected.
Everyone is affected
I am currently in Burkina Faso, where over 2 million are affected. If anything is clear, from the 20 interviews or so that I’ve had with Save the Children staff and beneficiaries, it is that everyone is affected – and Burkina Faso has 17.2 million inhabitants.
In 52 health centres in the Kaya district in Burkina Faso that I just visited, all children under five years get free treatment, and on top of that, Save the Children trains staff and volunteers and raises awareness on health and nutrition.
Last month I visited Niger for four days. On average a woman in Niger gives birth to 7.1 children in her lifetime and she also stands a one in six chance of losing a child before it reaches the age of five.
That means that, statistically speaking, every woman in Niger loses a child.
This is confirmed by nearly all the women, I spoke to while in Niger. Where I come from, we say that no one should live to see one’s child die.
For £7, you can treat a malnourished child with highly nutritious peanut paste for one week. Now that’s a low number.
For those who want to help feed the poor
http://www.savethechildren.orgFor those who want to follow the Prophet's counsel
http://www.shopcitycreekcenter.comWhat can you buy at City Creek for the dollar equivalent of £7?
Re: The 5 billion dollar humanitarian challenge....
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:08 pm
by _Albion
Curious, Drifting, are you in the UK?
Re: The 5 billion dollar humanitarian challenge....
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:54 pm
by _Drifting
UNICEF relies on contributions from governments and private donors and UNICEF's total income for 2008 was $3,372,540,239.Governments contribute two thirds of the organization's resources; private groups and some 6 million individuals contribute the rest through the National Committees. It is estimated that 91.8% of their revenue is distributed to Program Services. UNICEF's programs emphasize developing community-level services to promote the health and well-being of children. UNICEF was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1965 and the Prince of Asturias Award of Concord in 2006.
Re: The 5 billion dollar humanitarian challenge....
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:56 pm
by _hatersinmyward
liz3564 wrote:Or, if the Church wanted to provide for its own members, if that money had been poured back into the Bishop's Storehouses around the world, I am sure that members who are struggling with the economy right now would appreciate being able to expand their food orders.
They help their members and only thier members.
I heard a stoy of a parent that recently killed themseves after the LDS's leaders flip-floped it's stance on homosexuality. Apperently the person had previously disowned their gay child which accumulated to the child's death.
The LDS Church always spits in the faces of those that are too weak to live up to it's rigorous standards.