Stone Boxes and Metallic Plates

[_Dcharle]

The stone box, did Joseph now about the use of stone boxes to bury metallic plates or did he just get a lucky hit?

[_Sethbag]

Weak.

[_PrickKicker]

The stone box, did Joseph now about the use of stone boxes to bury metallic plates or did he just get a lucky hit?

Ok you have my attention...

Can you expand on that?

[_ldsfaqs]

Weak.

Weak only to the "weak minded"....

The biggest problem with your judgment is that Joseph Smith got right at least some 100,000 "weak" AND "strong" things. All the things he got right with the Book of Mormon that's only being proven true, with other scriptures, other teachings, etc.
Guess what that means....? It means the Restoration is exactly what it was claimed to be, and Joseph was exactly who he was claimed to be.

The only thing you guys have on Joseph is that some things still haven't been discovered yet, all the while ignoring all the things that HAVE been discovered related to the Book of Mormon and the Book of Abraham.
Just an example....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6bgHHm_Ubc

Read the book "Lehi in the Wilderness - 81 Evidences that the Book of Mormon is a true history" and learn something for a change. Joseph couldn't ever have known all that information. And that's just ONE subject, one area, issue, story.
And FYI, it's not actually 81 Evidences, it's at least some couple 1,000 evidences that support the 81 points from the Book of Mormon mentioned concerning Lehi's journey in the Wilderness.

Oh, and be sure to get the DVD also!

An intro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE2BqNSolps

[_ldsfaqs]

The stone box, did Joseph now about the use of stone boxes to bury metallic plates or did he just get a lucky hit?

Ok you have my attention...

Can you expand on that?

http://www.mormonfortress.com/boxmetal.html

http://maxwellinstitute.BYU.edu/publica ... &chapid=75

http://www.lightplanet.com/Mormons/book ... lates.html

http://www.shields-research.org/Scriptures/Book of Mormon/GPUA.htm

http://www.bmaf.org/node/421

[_PrickKicker]

2LDSFAQs:

Wow, Profound.
My eyes have been opened!
So let me just recap, 'Green and Yellow boxes chase away Red. ('Sounds like the Gods plan to get back at those pesky Lamanites.)

How much money has been invested in F.A.R.M.S and this is all they have proven.

Because Anti Mormon idiot came up with argument based on a dead horse, its proof its true,
Because there were some old horse bones found and Joseph Smith mentioned horses.
Because he wrote about silk and old silk has been found.
because he wrote about steel and steel was found.

Well I'll be DARNED! Its all true and He was right all along.
(Where are those longjohns with the masonic symbols stitched over the nipples? I better start wearing them again.)

[_ldsfaqs]

Point is that you people have claimed MOST of these things never existed in the real world and never would, yet they've been found in the real world. You write them as one of your main "excuses" in your "exist story's", stating that because most of the stuff mentioned in the Book of Mormon hasn't been found by science, that's it's clearly false. Yet, when science is proving the claims in the Book of Mormon as true and valid, and even debunking your claims against the book, you mock like a little child. It's just like Francis Nelson Henderson that I just met, the son of a wonderful man and his family that I'm staying with. He has all the predicable "all these things don't exist" list in his 26 page exit story. Yet, many of those things HAVE been now found, but like the predictable anti-mormon, like you, people just stick there heads in the sand. Because you already "know" the Church is false, you have no need to be humble and objective, putting away unrighteous judgments and continue to study. You know it all already....

So, here we see that things have been found compared to what was known in 1830.
Thus, rather than the Book of Mormon being proven false and a fraud by scientific discovery and inquiry it is being proven true by it.

Point is, that there is so much evidence for the Restoration that people simply don't have any excuse any more. These are only a couple of things of 100,000 or more. Anti-mormons don't even have close to that many things against the Church, especially since the fact that nearly all anti-mormon claims are perversions, misrepresentations, and outright lies concerning the facts and truth.

Anyway, your childish petty mockery doesn't change these facts either.

I came back to the Church because I kept learning and finally overcame my ignorance, the same kind of ignorance as you. The fact is, the evidence is FAR for the Church rather than against as you people believe. You shut your brains off and just mock, and you will remain in your ignorant and awful state. Because only darkness seeks to destroy light.....

[_PrickKicker]

What I am saying is I think that is a poor argument for or against Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon.
Logic and reasoning says wood denatures faster than stone, and so wouldn't be the most intelligent way to store treasure buried in the earth.

The facts are there is no direct physical evidence why else would God took back the plates breastplate urim and thumim, liahona, and all the real evidence.
Its all about FAITH.

You are right I do choose to be childish at times, and I know mockery does not change fact.
You make presumptions and assumptions about people, because in your mind you believe you know better.

I used to be a Narrow minded, short sighted, Lying, Racist, Homophobic, Pious, Moron.
But they were all behavioral traits that I had learnt through Mormonism.

I opened my mind to explore other possibilities, I am trying to get others to see the light. How about you?

[_madeleine]

Even a broken clock is right twice a day?

But seriously, I think you would need to show that all archaeological discoveries of stone boxes came later than the Book of Mormon. In other words, incorporating current technologies, discoveries, current events, historical events, etc., and using them to create an imaginary world in a work of fiction is normal. It doesn't make the work of fiction, non-fiction.

[Guest]

The stone box, did Joseph now about the use of stone boxes to bury metallic plates or did he just get a lucky hit?

The idea existed in Joseph's day.