Exciting times in Europe...

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Exciting times in Europe...

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From LDS.org/United Kingdom

In 2009 the Europe Area Presidency, of which Elder Teixeira was a part, stated in the Area Committee Report: “As we retain our convert baptisms, save our youth, and continue to reactivate the less-active, we will be able to double the active membership of the Europe Area within ten years.” The current Area Presidency is committed to continuing this effort that began three years ago, with the goal to reach the stated objective by 2020.

Wonderful things are happening in the Europe Area as members strengthen themselves and their families, seek to rescue those who are lost, and invite their family members and friends to attend sacrament meeting. The rising generation is growing in faith and testimony as they attend daily seminary and institute classes, participate in Special Multi-stake Youth Conferences and activities for young single adults, and apply in their lives the principles outlined in For the Strength of Youth and Duty to God. The number of young people being called as full-time missionaries is increasing each year. Temple attendance is on the rise, as is the number of convert baptisms.


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Drifting, I'm not sure I'm following this post, are you questioning the accuracy of the Church's claims in the UK?
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Dcharle wrote:Drifting, I'm not sure I'm following this post, are you questioning the accuracy of the Church's claims in the UK?


I'm questioning the Europe Area Presidency's claims about the Europe Area.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
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Drifting wrote:
Dcharle wrote:Drifting, I'm not sure I'm following this post, are you questioning the accuracy of the Church's claims in the UK?


I'm questioning the Europe Area Presidency's claims about the Europe Area.


Yeh I'd question that.

As an English member, I have seen people leaving at a phenomenal rate.
I am talking Ex Bishops and Stake Presidents too.

Missions applications are supposed to be more challenging to get through these days.
there has been no mass influx of new members in my stake.
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PrickKicker wrote:
Yeh I'd question that.

As an English member, I have seen people leaving at a phenomenal rate.
I am talking Ex Bishops and Stake Presidents too.

Missions applications are supposed to be more challenging to get through these days.
there has been no mass influx of new members in my stake.


According to official membership numbers etc the average congregation size is 550 ish. How many wards in your stake average that many each week?
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I served a mission in England from 1986-1988, supposedly the high point of conversions in the church, it was a very tough mission, very little by way of conversions, I suppose it is worse now.
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Drifting wrote:
PrickKicker wrote:
Yeh I'd question that.

As an English member, I have seen people leaving at a phenomenal rate.
I am talking Ex Bishops and Stake Presidents too.

Missions applications are supposed to be more challenging to get through these days.
there has been no mass influx of new members in my stake.


According to official membership numbers etc the average congregation size is 550 ish. How many wards in your stake average that many each week?


That is complete BS!
We have the biggest ward in the stake and we get 200 odd.

I served my mission in Manchester England 96-98... Worst 2 years EVER!!!
we were the highest baptizing mission in Europe and per companionship we averaged about 15 per companionship in 2 years x that by half the mission say 250 = 1,875 per Year.

It's no way that high now, we used to pay hobos, gays and kids to be baptized just for the numbers each month.
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PrickKicker wrote:
That is complete BS!
We have the biggest ward in the stake and we get 200 odd.

I served my mission in Manchester England 96-98... Worst 2 years EVER!!!
we were the highest baptizing mission in Europe and per companionship we averaged about 15 per companionship in 2 years x that by half the mission say 250 = 1,875 per Year.

It's no way that high now, we used to pay hobos, gays and kids to be baptized just for the numbers each month.


I believe it is saying size, not attendance.
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Given what we have heard about Sweden lately and now the figures about convert baptisms in the UK, where exactly were the Europe Area Presidency referring to when they said (as per the OP)?


In 2009 the Europe Area Presidency, of which Elder Teixeira was a part, stated in the Area Committee Report: “As we retain our convert baptisms, save our youth, and continue to reactivate the less-active, we will be able to double the active membership of the Europe Area within ten years.” The current Area Presidency is committed to continuing this effort that began three years ago, with the goal to reach the stated objective by 2020.

Wonderful things are happening in the Europe Area as members strengthen themselves and their families, seek to rescue those who are lost, and invite their family members and friends to attend sacrament meeting. The rising generation is growing in faith and testimony as they attend daily seminary and institute classes, participate in Special Multi-stake Youth Conferences and activities for young single adults, and apply in their lives the principles outlined in For the Strength of Youth and Duty to God. The number of young people being called as full-time missionaries is increasing each year. Temple attendance is on the rise, as is the number of convert baptisms.


I repeat my CFR for something to support what the Europe Area Presidency is claiming.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric

"One, two, three...let's go shopping!"
Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
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