Indulgences Granted by the Second Anointing

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Indulgences Granted by the Second Anointing

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I imagine after a lifetime of service which was observable by the recommender and verified through tithing records, the granting of limited indulgence (murder is still out of bounds) by Second Anointing could be thought of as an earthly reward. However, there are so many deserving Mormons out there that it is unfortunate they too cannot be embraced by this Church within the Church practice.

On the other hand, if there is some unspoken order of things doctrine that only so many can have their calling and election made sure, then it makes sense to do so in a way that the horde of great unwashed and anointed feet will not be clamoring to walk aboard that starship to salvation when only a limited number can be put into millennial stasis. Keeping it hush-hush from the members spares their feelings of not being chosen. Besides, they might view this anointed indulgence as a license to not feel guilt over their business and sexual activities.

With this anointing in hand, you are able to skip to the front of the line and avoid that atonement process, with either Jesus or Joseph giving you a personal interview to determine worthiness.

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moksha wrote:I imagine after a lifetime of service which was observable by the recommender and verified through tithing records, the granting of limited indulgence (murder is still out of bounds) by Second Anointing could be thought of as an earthly reward. However, there are so many deserving Mormons out there that it is unfortunate they too cannot be embraced by this Church within the Church practice.

On the other hand, if there is some unspoken order of things doctrine that only so many can have their calling and election made sure, then it makes sense to do so in a way that the horde of great unwashed and anointed feet will not be clamoring to walk aboard that starship to salvation when only a limited number can be put into millennial stasis. Keeping it hush-hush from the members spares their feelings of not being chosen. Besides, they might view this anointed indulgence as a license to not feel guilt over their business and sexual activities.

With this anointing in hand, you are able to skip to the front of the line and avoid that atonement process, with either Jesus or Joseph giving you a personal interview to determine worthiness.

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I do not know how the Church deals with the Holy Spirit of Promise - or how it is made known to the recipient that whatever sealing ordinance they have entered into HAS been sealed by the Holy Spirit of Promise. Did the early Restored Church receive a revelation which was then passed on to the recipient? Is there a record being kept by the Church? To me it would seem that the recipient would know this has taken place because God would somehow make this knowledge known to him in the same way any other part of Truth is revealed to us personally when we are ready; which is through the power of the Holy Ghost. I do not think it is a gift which the Church has the power or the authority to bestow upon an individual according to her own will.

I am not so sure that the Church Leadership today would necessarily know when this takes place. There is much today that Joseph and BY taught that is not taught today - and I do not know the "real" reason why these things are no longer taught.

I do not think the Church controls this; she is merely a vessel. I do know that individuals can receive the power to forgive sins - the ancient Apostles were given this power. However, the forgiveness of sins is not a guaranty of where a spirit is going to wind up. That is still up to the individual spirit. As such, for those who think the Church has the power to "save" people, they have forgotten who made Salvation possible.

I have not given very much thought or consideration as to how the Holy Spirit of Promise is manifested; though I have tentatively approached it a couple of times. I simply do not know that much about it yet.

As far as the "Elect" are concerned, I have a current understanding about them. This understanding may be expanded upon and re-aligned from time to time; just as All parts of Truth are. It is this: In each incarnation (or probation as Joseph called it), it is known beforehand which spirits will evolve into perfect alignment with God's will. They are called "Elect" as an indication of identification. There are many incarnations a spirit goes through during which they eventually progress enough to be One with Father and the Son. Some take more incarnations than others. Ultimately as we experience our many incarnations we will each come to a point in our journey where we will be an "Elect" in our next incarnation. It may also be possible to accelerate this process through our own intervention with God during any given incarnation; but I do not know what this looks like, or how it effects being known as an "Elect".

I always enjoy your thoughts, Moksha.

Blessings,

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clamoring to walk aboard that starship to salvation when only a limited number can be put into millennial stasis.

Reminds me of Disney Pixar's WALL-E.

D&C 88:138 And ye shall not receive any among you into this school save he is clean from the ablood of this generation;
139 And he shall be received by the ordinance of the awashing of feet, for unto this end was the ordinance of the washing of feet instituted.
140 And again, the ordinance of washing feet is to be administered by the president, or presiding elder of the church.
141 It is to be commenced with prayer; and after partaking of abread and wine, he is to gird himself according to the bpattern given in the thirteenth chapter of John’s testimony concerning me. Amen.

To many Mormons mistake this for the Second Comforter / Having your calling and election made sure.

OMG! not that evil beverage WINE!!!
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moksha wrote:I imagine after a lifetime of service which was observable by the recommender and verified through tithing records, the granting of limited indulgence (murder is still out of bounds) by Second Anointing could be thought of as an earthly reward. However, there are so many deserving Mormons out there that it is unfortunate they too cannot be embraced by this Church within the Church practice.

On the other hand, if there is some unspoken order of things doctrine that only so many can have their calling and election made sure, then it makes sense to do so in a way that the horde of great unwashed and anointed feet will not be clamoring to walk aboard that starship to salvation when only a limited number can be put into millennial stasis. Keeping it hush-hush from the members spares their feelings of not being chosen. Besides, they might view this anointed indulgence as a license to not feel guilt over their business and sexual activities.

With this anointing in hand, you are able to skip to the front of the line and avoid that atonement process, with either Jesus or Joseph giving you a personal interview to determine worthiness.

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D&C 132:26 promises those of us with a temple marriage the same thing...
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D&C 132:26 promises those of us with a temple marriage the same thing...


Temple marriage???

You mean those that practice polygamy?
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PrickKicker wrote:
D&C 132:26 promises those of us with a temple marriage the same thing...


Temple marriage???

You mean those that practice polygamy?


Well. As we know through modern interpretation this chapter is now referencing temple marriage rather than polygamous marriage...
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric

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A couple of question I wish someone could try to answer:

1. Is there a known reason why solicitation for Second Anointing candidates (and their wives) for this ordinance is through recommendations by Second Anointees themselves?

2. Does this recommendation process effectively exclude the righteous LDS poor since they run in different circles?
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moksha wrote:A couple of question I wish someone could try to answer:

1. Is there a known reason why solicitation for Second Anointing candidates (and their wives) for this ordinance is through recommendations by Second Anointees themselves?

2. Does this recommendation process effectively exclude the righteous LDS poor since they run in different circles?


1. They don't want no riff raff in the club.
2. Yes. And no black person has ever had a second Annointing.
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moksha wrote:A couple of question I wish someone could try to answer:

1. Is there a known reason why solicitation for Second Anointing candidates (and their wives) for this ordinance is through recommendations by Second Anointees themselves?

2. Does this recommendation process effectively exclude the righteous LDS poor since they run in different circles?


Hi Moksha:

CFR please.

Thank you,

jo
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jo1952 wrote:Hi Moksha:

CFR please.

Thank you,

jo


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