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Questions from an ex-Muslim
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:14 pm
by _sister
Hey, so I am pretty new as a Mormon and was surprised the other day in Relief Society when I mentioned that being Muslim was much harder than being Mormon. It surprised me that the other Mormon women thought that it was hard to be Mormon. What is with this? As Muslim, there was prayer 5 times a day for about 10-15 minutes each, Ritual wudu (washing), observing Hijab, not looking men in the face, yeilding to men, restrictions on diet to Halal foods only, and a whole range of other things.
My experience as Mormon has be oh so much easier, thought getting used to such brief clothing is bothersome. I finally decided to be comfortable, and they can just get over it.
I'm confused.
Re: Questions from an ex-Muslim
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:05 pm
by _Themis
Have you asked these women to give specifics on why they think it is hard? I certainly think it would be hard to be a women in conservative Muslim group.
Re: Questions from an ex-Muslim
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:01 pm
by _Albion
I can't relate but it appears to me that you have exchanged one legalistic religious system for another.
Re: Questions from an ex-Muslim
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:26 pm
by _ldsfaqs
sister wrote:Hey, so I am pretty new as a Mormon and was surprised the other day in Relief Society when I mentioned that being Muslim was much harder than being Mormon. It surprised me that the other Mormon women thought that it was hard to be Mormon. What is with this? As Muslim, there was prayer 5 times a day for about 10-15 minutes each, Ritual wudu (washing), observing Hijab, not looking men in the face, yeilding to men, restrictions on diet to Halal foods only, and a whole range of other things.
My experience as Mormon has be oh so much easier, thought getting used to such brief clothing is bothersome. I finally decided to be comfortable, and they can just get over it.
I'm confused.
Well, others (the anti's here) should pay attention to your actual words.
So, you were wondering why some thought it was hard to be a Mormon?
Well, simply because it's a religion with rules and the church try's to require people to follow them, the basics at least.
Obviously it's much easier than being a Muslim woman, thus you would be correct. But, from the easy life of do what you want sadly modern American perspective, being a Mormon is hard in comparison to most everything else in general American society these days.
Although sadly even Mormonism is "loosing up" a little too much these days. Standards and accountability simply don't mean what they used to mean.
Re: Questions from an ex-Muslim
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:30 am
by _subgenius
sister wrote:Hey, so I am pretty new as a Mormon and was surprised the other day in Relief Society when I mentioned that being Muslim was much harder than being Mormon. It surprised me that the other Mormon women thought that it was hard to be Mormon. What is with this? As Muslim, there was prayer 5 times a day for about 10-15 minutes each, Ritual wudu (washing), observing Hijab, not looking men in the face, yeilding to men, restrictions on diet to Halal foods only, and a whole range of other things.
My experience as Mormon has be oh so much easier, thought getting used to such brief clothing is bothersome. I finally decided to be comfortable, and they can just get over it.
I'm confused.
The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.....a cliché' but likely applicable.

well, that and - dames, go figure!
Re: Questions from an ex-Muslim
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:11 am
by _ldsfaqs
subgenius wrote:sister wrote:Hey, so I am pretty new as a Mormon and was surprised the other day in Relief Society when I mentioned that being Muslim was much harder than being Mormon. It surprised me that the other Mormon women thought that it was hard to be Mormon. What is with this? As Muslim, there was prayer 5 times a day for about 10-15 minutes each, Ritual wudu (washing), observing Hijab, not looking men in the face, yeilding to men, restrictions on diet to Halal foods only, and a whole range of other things.
My experience as Mormon has be oh so much easier, thought getting used to such brief clothing is bothersome. I finally decided to be comfortable, and they can just get over it.
I'm confused.
The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.....a cliché' but likely applicable.
Actually, the "cliché' " is that the "Grass IS NOT greener on the other side".
It refers to relationships "marriages" specifically. People do however think it is greener on the other side, and then discover it's usually not, which is the cliché'.
Re: Questions from an ex-Muslim
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:21 am
by _Equality
ldsfaqs wrote:[
Actually, the "cliché' " is that the "Grass IS NOT greener on the other side".
Um, actually, no, you are wrong (no surprise there). The cliché is that "the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence."
Re: Questions from an ex-Muslim
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:15 am
by _ldsfaqs
Equality wrote:ldsfaqs wrote:[
Actually, the "cliché' " is that the "Grass IS NOT greener on the other side".
Um, actually, no, you are wrong (no surprise there). The cliché is that "the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence."
Hmmmm..... Well, you all are actually right for a change.
As to your other comment, yes I'm wrong "once in a while", and when I am, I actually admit it.
None of you are every wrong however, and you never admit it when you are.
Though, I did have one finally admit one mistake that took my picture evidence proving him wrong, but didn't admit the rest of his wrong comments on the subject, thus truthfully and actually no surprise there.
So, it IS a "surprise" for me. Maybe not to you, because you believe your delusion is actual fact, truth, and reality, but I'm teachable, you're not. Yes, I didn't "double check" this particular claim, because it was a non issue. I had always heard the cliché' as "the grass is not greener on the other side". I didn't realize that the "official" cliché' is "the grass is greener on the other side". I do have however in most of my other views well over 1,000 times checked my facts, analysed the details so I'm telling the full and actual truth before I open my mouth, the important stuff.
It was an honest mistake..... contrary to what you all do intentionally.
Re: Questions from an ex-Muslim
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:56 am
by _ludwigm
ldsfaqs wrote:Equality wrote:[ quote="ldsfaqs"]Actually, the "cliché' " is that the "Grass IS NOT greener on the other side".[ /quote]
Um, actually, no, you are wrong (no surprise there). The cliché is that "the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence."
Hmmmm..... Well, you all are actually right for a change.
As to your other comment, yes I'm wrong "once in a while", and when I am, I actually admit it.
None of you are every wrong however, and you never admit it when you are.
Though, I did have one finally admit one mistake that took my picture evidence proving him wrong, but didn't admit the rest of his wrong comments on the subject, thus truthfully and actually no surprise there.
So, it IS a "surprise" for me. Maybe not to you, because you believe your delusion is actual fact, truth, and reality, but I'm teachable, you're not. Yes, I didn't "double check" this particular claim, because it was a non issue. I had always heard the cliché' as "the grass is not greener on the other side". I didn't realize that the "official" cliché' is "the grass is greener on the other side". I do have however in most of my other views well over 1,000 times checked my facts, analysed the details so I'm telling the full and actual truth before I open my mouth, the important stuff.
It was an honest mistake..... contrary to what you all do intentionally.
This can happen if one doesn't know the meaning of "not".
See
viewtopic.php?p=636722#p636722Don't care, chum!
I know - and You know, and we all know - one president of US who didn't know the meaning of "is". You are in a good club.
Re: Questions from an ex-Muslim
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:45 am
by _moksha
When Mormon men load themselves with dynamite and rush into a crowd, they tend to think of adding Mary Sue and Ellen as celestial mates, rather than 72 virgins. Muslims think on a larger scale.