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There are many Mormons among the 47 percent Mitt Romney said take advantage of government assistance. But, they say, they are not irresponsible or lazy.
Indeed, Brigham Young University graduate students who marry young and start their families before they have much of an income believe they are following their faith’s advice to "bear children." So they turn to government-funded poverty programs such as Medicaid.

Drifting wrote:

There are many Mormons among the 47 percent Mitt Romney said take advantage of government assistance. But, they say, they are not irresponsible or lazy.
Indeed, Brigham Young University graduate students who marry young and start their families before they have much of an income believe they are following their faith’s advice to "bear children." So they turn to government-funded poverty programs such as Medicaid.

Who is in charge of his mouth...?


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Audience member: For the last three years, all everybody's been told is, "Don't worry, we'll take care of you." How are you going to do it, in two months before the elections, to convince everybody you've got to take care of yourself?

Romney: There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. And I mean, the president starts off with 48, 49, 48—he starts off with a huge number. These are people who pay no income tax. Forty-seven percent of Americans pay no income tax. So our message of low taxes doesn't connect. And he'll be out there talking about tax cuts for the rich. I mean that's what they sell every four years. And so my job is not to worry about those people—I'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. What I have to do is convince the 5 to 10 percent in the center that are independents that are thoughtful, that look at voting one way or the other depending upon in some cases emotion, whether they like the guy or not, what it looks like. I mean, when you ask those people…we do all these polls—I find it amazing—we poll all these people, see where you stand on the polls, but 45 percent of the people will go with a Republican, and 48 or 4…

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Albion wrote:Romney argues that there are 47% of the people who depend on the government for support and who pay no taxes. Of this 47% who pay no taxes, 22% are seniors living on social security, 15% are working poor who do pay SS taxes and Medicare taxes, and 3% are receiving tax breaks for such things as college tuition. Speaking only for myself as someone who has paid no taxes for the past two years because I am debt free and SS has been sufficient, I resent Romney's inference that I am a freeloader. I have paid taxes all my working life, I have never received a penny from any source such as unemployment, foodstamps, or other welfare...ever...and I do not consider SS security which I receive as anything other than a proper return on investment I was forced to make. Romney's remarks are stupid and outrageous.

Albion wrote:My social security check is the earnings from my investment

Albion wrote:...I do not view it as an entitlement in the sense that Romney meant it....you very conveniently give him a pass on his claim that I am a "victim" and that I am one "who believe that government has a responsibility to care" for me "and who believe(s) "that they are entitled to healthcare, to food, to housing, to you name it." I reject fully that characterization, with resentment that he would sit in his ivory tower and say such a thing. Politically, the man is a buffoon and his comments deserve the backlash they have generated. End of.

subgenius wrote:I do not imagine he intends that you are the "typical" Obama supporter has would be characterized for that audience.