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Moral Code: an element of religion
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:41 am
by _moksha
All religions have four elements:
1. a worldview,
2. rituals and symbols,
3. a moral code,
4. a sense of community.
A question about the moral code springs to mind:
If we limit our moral code to matters of sexuality, does that enable fraud and other business malpractices to run rampant within our culture?
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Re: Moral Code: an element of religion
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:54 pm
by _subgenius
moksha wrote:If we limit our moral code to matters of sexuality, does that enable fraud and other business malpractices to run rampant within our culture?
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obviously, since the "limit" in your hypothetical is a given.
Re: Moral Code: an element of religion
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:18 am
by _moksha
subgenius wrote:obviously, since the "limit" in your hypothetical is a given.
If we altered this to include that which is that which is spoken about in LDS General Conference, sexuality and apostasy would rank as the two most important aspects of a moral code.
Re: Moral Code: an element of religion
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:41 pm
by _Bhodi
moksha wrote:subgenius wrote:obviously, since the "limit" in your hypothetical is a given.
If we altered this to include that which is that which is spoken about in LDS General Conference, sexuality and apostasy would rank as the two most important aspects of a moral code.
I am not necessarily sure that is correct. I went back and did a quick review, nothing exhaustively quantitative, but a review, and I think there was morally included than simply apostasy and sex, though I agree we do fixate on this a little too much.
Re: Moral Code: an element of religion
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:01 pm
by _subgenius
moksha wrote:subgenius wrote:obviously, since the "limit" in your hypothetical is a given.
If we altered this to include that which is that which is spoken about in LDS General Conference, sexuality and apostasy would rank as the two most important aspects of a moral code.
i disagree...though pornography on the internet has been an issue in the past few years, i find the following interesting and contrary to what you are proposing.
I did a quick search for a few "moral" keywords on LDS.org and got the occurrence results from General Conferences only.
Pornography = 204
Sex = 111
Apostasy = 137
Steal = 164
Cheat = 81
Deceit = 65
Murder = 123
Fraud = 27
Forgiveness = 438
Charity = 395
Kindness = 458
Humility = 377
The actual moral emphasis is quite clear from just this small sampling......however, i am reminded of how often we will discuss a General Conference talk(s) while recognizing that we each hear things through our own particular "filter" at the time - which is why we are often counseled to re-visit the talks. So, perhaps when one considers Conference as having a sex and apostasy emphasis it is because that one is....well....you get my point...a sort of "me thinks thou doth protest too much".
Re: Moral Code: an element of religion
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:51 am
by _palerobber
i don't think so. the moral codes of religions do very little to check the worst impulses of humanity, even among believers. the incentives are too distant and abstract to move people very far from their preferred course. i think people get fooled when they see that a lot of religious people are pretty good at following strict and/or arbitrary rules, and they jump to the conclusion that religious faith is what makes these people obey. but i think that's actually backward -- some people just like rules and the feelings of security, mastery, and superiority they get from observing them. it is these people who make religion, religion does not make them.
so it doesn't matter too much what religions chose to focus on. what really matters is our legal code.