The Tanners, their Website and the LDS Church
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The Tanners, their Website and the LDS Church
It always seemed to me that the insidiousness of the Tanner's website was not so much in their dislike of the LDS Church (which was evident) but the accuracy of its reporting the Church's actual history. Here you have a religion representing goodness but with fibs, while in the opposite corner you have this angry couple and their bookstore disseminating reports of what actually happened in that religion, but with an inglorious twist.
Goodness ends up ill served when bright faithful members must dissemble the truth and pretzelize reasoning in order to defend legend and refute truth. Something is way out of whack when members leave a faith after learning about their faith on the internet. If Lord Xenu did not load volcanoes with nuclear bombs, then we should be told, even if it seems to diminish Lord Xenu and leads to more thetans on our E-meter readings!!!
It is accurate information that helps us progress both spiritually and intellectually. The truth sets us free.
Goodness ends up ill served when bright faithful members must dissemble the truth and pretzelize reasoning in order to defend legend and refute truth. Something is way out of whack when members leave a faith after learning about their faith on the internet. If Lord Xenu did not load volcanoes with nuclear bombs, then we should be told, even if it seems to diminish Lord Xenu and leads to more thetans on our E-meter readings!!!
It is accurate information that helps us progress both spiritually and intellectually. The truth sets us free.
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Amen! 
So far this morning two things have made me smile: (1 Your post, and (2 the neighbor's kids having a contest to see who can scream the loudest.
People complain the Tanners are only interested in using--to name one example--polygamy as a stick to beat up faithful Latter-day Saints. Unfortunately, faithful Latter-day Saints are the ones passing out the sticks.

So far this morning two things have made me smile: (1 Your post, and (2 the neighbor's kids having a contest to see who can scream the loudest.
People complain the Tanners are only interested in using--to name one example--polygamy as a stick to beat up faithful Latter-day Saints. Unfortunately, faithful Latter-day Saints are the ones passing out the sticks.
Surprise, surprise, there is no divine mandate for the Church to discuss and portray its history accurately.
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When I speak of the LDS Church in terms of goodness, I mean it. I bet no other religious group dedicates as much of their time and resources into doing what they consider to be good. Even though the total percentage of charitable donation might come out to be a smaller percentage than other religious groups, that is not the case going in. Members give to do good and the intent also counts in my book.
Even the money given to FAIR is not intended to beat plowshares into swords (except perhaps to replace the missing sword of Laban). They expect good to come of it. The contributors to the Maxwell Ziggurat no doubt take comfort that their contributions can ultimately be used as a Fortress of Solitude for Blair Hodges rather than Louis Luther's Lair.
The members of the Church aim for the good.
Even the money given to FAIR is not intended to beat plowshares into swords (except perhaps to replace the missing sword of Laban). They expect good to come of it. The contributors to the Maxwell Ziggurat no doubt take comfort that their contributions can ultimately be used as a Fortress of Solitude for Blair Hodges rather than Louis Luther's Lair.
The members of the Church aim for the good.
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Did you know that Mormons have a very low incidence of members perpetrating violent crimes after 1860, yet the Tanners failed to note that in all their articles about the LDS Church. Very telling in its omission.
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Well, as I have so often heard from people of the LDS faith, "Don't judge on what others say, but hold one accountable by what that one says."
With that in mind, please visit: http://www.utlm.org/
With that in mind, please visit: http://www.utlm.org/
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moksha wrote:When I speak of the LDS Church in terms of goodness, I mean it. I bet no other religious group dedicates as much of their time and resources into doing what they consider to be good. Even though the total percentage of charitable donation might come out to be a smaller percentage than other religious groups, that is not the case going in. Members give to do good and the intent also counts in my book.
Even the money given to FAIR is not intended to beat plowshares into swords (except perhaps to replace the missing sword of Laban). They expect good to come of it. The contributors to the Maxwell Ziggurat no doubt take comfort that their contributions can ultimately be used as a Fortress of Solitude for Blair Hodges rather than Louis Luther's Lair.
The members of the Church aim for the good.
Are you kidding me? ]
The Salvation Army? And the scores of compassion ministries and small inner city churches and missions. Catholic Charities? Help the Children? Samaritan’s Purse? Compassion International? legacy world Mission? etc...etc...
Don't take life so seriously in that " sooner or later we are just old men in funny clothes" "Tom 'T-Bone' Wolk"
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Markk wrote:moksha wrote:When I speak of the LDS Church in terms of goodness, I mean it. I bet no other religious group dedicates as much of their time and resources into doing what they consider to be good. Even though the total percentage of charitable donation might come out to be a smaller percentage than other religious groups, that is not the case going in. Members give to do good and the intent also counts in my book.
Even the money given to FAIR is not intended to beat plowshares into swords (except perhaps to replace the missing sword of Laban). They expect good to come of it. The contributors to the Maxwell Ziggurat no doubt take comfort that their contributions can ultimately be used as a Fortress of Solitude for Blair Hodges rather than Louis Luther's Lair.
The members of the Church aim for the good.
Are you kidding me? ]
The Salvation Army? And the scores of compassion ministries and small inner city churches and missions. Catholic Charities? Help the Children? Samaritan’s Purse? Compassion International? legacy world Mission? etc...etc...
Yes he is.
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My parents went on a mission to an impoverished area of the States. Their letters were focused a lot on the poverty, including people who had converted to Mormonism. When I suggested they spend their time helping the poor, they told me that isn't what they were sent to do.moksha wrote:When I speak of the LDS Church in terms of goodness, I mean it. I bet no other religious group dedicates as much of their time and resources into doing what they consider to be good. Even though the total percentage of charitable donation might come out to be a smaller percentage than other religious groups, that is not the case going in. Members give to do good and the intent also counts in my book.
Even the money given to FAIR is not intended to beat plowshares into swords (except perhaps to replace the missing sword of Laban). They expect good to come of it. The contributors to the Maxwell Ziggurat no doubt take comfort that their contributions can ultimately be used as a Fortress of Solitude for Blair Hodges rather than Louis Luther's Lair.
The members of the Church aim for the good.
Being a Christian is not the result of an ethical choice or a lofty idea, but the encounter with an event, a person, which gives life a new horizon and a decisive direction -Pope Benedict XVI
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My parents went on a mission to an impoverished area of the States. Their letters were focused a lot on the poverty, including people who had converted to Mormonism. When I suggested they spend their time helping the poor, they told me that isn't what they were sent to do.
As a Christian I like to listen to thisoften. We get so stale.
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Fence Sitter wrote:The Salvation Army? And the scores of compassion ministries and small inner city churches and missions. Catholic Charities? Help the Children? Samaritan’s Purse? Compassion International? legacy world Mission? etc...etc...
These are all wonderful organizations doing much good in the world. They deserve praise. The Salvation Army and Catholic Charities alone, touch the lives of many millions every year.
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