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After studying papyri from a variety of museums throughout Europe, I have a questions. Can anyone, anywhere, show me a single papyrus that shows a priest standing over anyone, dead or alive, holding a knife in his hand? I'd even like to see any picture that from a pryamid text or a coffin text that shows anyone, god(s) or priest(s), holding a knife that is not defined in the text as defending the dead or protecting the dead from named or un-named dangers. In others words, every scene I've seen, where someone or god is holding a knife, they are not holding a knife in a threatening position, as defined by Joseph Smith in Facsimile 1, but merely as a protective measure.

Even when a knife is used in a picture, engraving or model for the purpose of slaughtering an animal, the knife is not held in a threatening gesture, but simply as a tool. I have never seen a knife held for the purpose of attack. The pharaohs of ancient Egypt do not wield swords or knives to attack enemies, but shoot with bows and arrows or wield a raised club to crush the skull of the enem(y)ies.

So up to proof. Find all the papyri, texts, pyramid texts or coffin texts where a knife, sword, or blade, is held with the purpose of cutting someone. Good luck.

Why on earth would we want to find a knife?

Here is a photo of the original picture overlaying the "restored" facsimile. As you can see, there is no knife on the original (the image is sourced from the FAIRwiki):

Spanner wrote:Why on earth would we want to find a knife?

Here is a photo of the original picture overlaying the "restored" facsimile. As you can see, there is no knife on the original (the image is sourced from the FAIRwiki):

I suggest you don't look for a knife then. However, it is widely held by those who claim belief in the Book of Abraham, that the unholy priest is holding a knife over the struggling Abraham.

My question relates to anyone interested in looking for comparisons, that a knife is not what priests hold in their hands, as depicted by the common Books of the Dead, because the person is already dead.

The only person shown, by the way, with legs apart, in the book of the dead, is the shadow, usually black in portrayal and with legs demonstrating action, because, as we know, a shadow never sits still for anything.

Spanner wrote:Why on earth would we want to find a knife?

Here is a photo of the original picture overlaying the "restored" facsimile. As you can see, there is no knife on the original (the image is sourced from the FAIRwiki):

I suggest you don't look for a knife then. However, it is widely held by those who claim belief in the Book of Abraham, that the unholy priest is holding a knife over the struggling Abraham.

My question relates to anyone interested in looking for comparisons, that a knife is not what priests hold in their hands, as depicted by the common Books of the Dead, because the person is already dead.

The only person shown, by the way, with legs apart, in the book of the dead, is the shadow, usually black in portrayal and with legs demonstrating action, because, as we know, a shadow never sits still for anything.

bcuzbcuz wrote:...(snip)... I'd even like to see any picture that from a pryamid text or a coffin text that shows anyone, god(s) or priest(s), holding a knife that is not defined in the text as defending the dead or protecting the dead from named or un-named dangers. ...(snip)...

So up to proof. Find all the papyri, texts, pyramid texts or coffin texts where a knife, sword, or blade, is held with the purpose of cutting someone. Good luck.

(circumcision) from the Tomb of Ank-Mahor at Saqqara, Sixth Dynasty, Teti, c. 2340 BC.



p.s. absence of evidence is not evidence of absence...jus sayin
http://www.egyptianmyths.net/knife.htm

subgenius wrote:

bcuzbcuz wrote:...(snip)... I'd even like to see any picture that from a pryamid text or a coffin text that shows anyone, god(s) or priest(s), holding a knife that is not defined in the text as defending the dead or protecting the dead from named or un-named dangers. ...(snip)...

So up to proof. Find all the papyri, texts, pyramid texts or coffin texts where a knife, sword, or blade, is held with the purpose of cutting someone. Good luck.

(circumcision) from the Tomb of Ank-Mahor at Saqqara, Sixth Dynasty, Teti, c. 2340 BC.



p.s. absence of evidence is not evidence of absence...jus sayin
http://www.egyptianmyths.net/knife.htm

Good point. This would also explain why Abraham's legs are separated because obviously he is trying to escape being circumcised. I mean there is no reason to think Abraham would already have been circumcised now is there?

Spanner wrote:Why on earth would we want to find a knife?

Here is a photo of the original picture overlaying the "restored" facsimile. As you can see, there is no knife on the original (the image is sourced from the FAIRwiki):

The bigger question might be, why does a patently obvious black coloured being suddenly have a white head?

Bazooka wrote:

Spanner wrote:Why on earth would we want to find a knife?

Here is a photo of the original picture overlaying the "restored" facsimile. As you can see, there is no knife on the original (the image is sourced from the FAIRwiki):

The bigger question might be, why does a patently obvious black coloured being suddenly have a white head?

to match the white legs?

Fence Sitter wrote:Good point. This would also explain why Abraham's legs are separated because obviously he is trying to escape being circumcised. I mean there is no reason to think Abraham would already have been circumcised now is there?

the OP made no qualification beyond what i posted.
If you would like the poster to move the goalpost, surely they would oblige.

subgenius wrote:
(circumcision) from the Tomb of Ank-Mahor at Saqqara, Sixth Dynasty, Teti, c. 2340 BC.



p.s. absence of evidence is not evidence of absence...jus sayin
http://www.egyptianmyths.net/knife.htm

I translated the hieroglyphs in the center of this image with a curious rock I found in my backyard.

It says "oowww!"