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The scriptures tell us, that there are TWO types of death...carnal death and spiritual death [separation from God, forever]. What about marriage?

The Christian ministry uses 1 Corinthians chapter 7 when advising married couples who have separated, to return to living together. They ASSUME that 'unbeliever' is equal to 'ungodly' and 'unrighteous'. In some cases, this is true, but it is not always the case.

An unbeliever is someone who does not believe in Christ as their saviour. This person may or may not believe in and follow the Ten Commandments, and may or may not carry out ungodly/unrighteous human acts.

An unrighteous/ungodly person may be a believer, but commits forbidden acts. This can happen even after becoming 'saved'. This person could even be part of a Christen church congregation, and perhaps, even be the minister of the church.

Romans 1:28 introduces us to the terminology, 'being turned over to a reprobate mind' [no further chance for salvation] in which case, the person becomes a 'zombie'...spiritually dead but carnally alive.

The scriptures COMMAND us to 'separate ourselves from the unrighteous/ungodly'. What if a 'saved' believer is married to an unrighteous/ungodly person, who refuses to change their ways, and God has turned them over to a reprobate mind? How do we, as 'believing' humans, know when another human being (even our spouse) has been turned over to a reprobate mind? First of all, if the person is our 'kindred', we would have to speak to this person, and try to convince them of changing their ways. If they refuse, then we should seek wisdom from God. Never should we use 'vanity' in order to base our decision on. God will direct us. This alleviates us from 'judging others'. If the person is not kindred, then simply separate yourself from this person...at ALL costs, including the necessity of finding a new job.

When a believer has separated from a spouse due to the above, he/she is allowed to remarry, but only to another 'saved' believer. Have no fear. God will direct you. Unfortunately, our legal system and our preachers may not agree with this, because they are in the dark. Ignore them. Concentrate on following God.

Thorwald wrote:The scriptures tell us, that there are TWO types of death...carnal death and spiritual death [separation from God, forever]. What about marriage?

The Christian ministry uses 1 Corinthians chapter 7 when advising married couples who have separated, to return to living together. They ASSUME that 'unbeliever' is equal to 'ungodly' and 'unrighteous'. In some cases, this is true, but it is not always the case.

An unbeliever is someone who does not believe in Christ as their saviour. This person may or may not believe in and follow the Ten Commandments, and may or may not carry out ungodly/unrighteous human acts.

An unrighteous/ungodly person may be a believer, but commits forbidden acts. This can happen even after becoming 'saved'. This person could even be part of a Christen church congregation, and perhaps, even be the minister of the church.

Romans 1:28 introduces us to the terminology, 'being turned over to a reprobate mind' [no further chance for salvation] in which case, the person becomes a 'zombie'...spiritually dead but carnally alive.

The scriptures COMMAND us to 'separate ourselves from the unrighteous/ungodly'. What if a 'saved' believer is married to an unrighteous/ungodly person, who refuses to change their ways, and God has turned them over to a reprobate mind? How do we, as 'believing' humans, know when another human being (even our spouse) has been turned over to a reprobate mind? First of all, if the person is our 'kindred', we would have to speak to this person, and try to convince them of changing their ways. If they refuse, then we should seek wisdom from God. Never should we use 'vanity' in order to base our decision on. God will direct us. This alleviates us from 'judging others'. If the person is not kindred, then simply separate yourself from this person...at ALL costs, including the necessity of finding a new job.

When a believer has separated from a spouse due to the above, he/she is allowed to remarry, but only to another 'saved' believer. Have no fear. God will direct you. Unfortunately, our legal system and our preachers may not agree with this, because they are in the dark. Ignore them. Concentrate on following God.

What is a forbidden act?

Were Adam and Eve married in the garden?

SteelHead wrote:Were Adam and Eve married in the garden?

Why wasn't Jesus married and is there a Mrs God?

Sounds like the perfect justification for divorce for any trumped up charge the "believer" can think up against the offending spouse.

If you want a divorce, get a divorce. Why do you have to make yourself puffed up with self-righteousness while doing it?

Bazooka wrote:

Thorwald wrote:The scriptures tell us, that there are TWO types of death...carnal death and spiritual death [separation from God, forever]. What about marriage?

The Christian ministry uses 1 Corinthians chapter 7 when advising married couples who have separated, to return to living together. They ASSUME that 'unbeliever' is equal to 'ungodly' and 'unrighteous'. In some cases, this is true, but it is not always the case.

An unbeliever is someone who does not believe in Christ as their saviour. This person may or may not believe in and follow the Ten Commandments, and may or may not carry out ungodly/unrighteous human acts.

An unrighteous/ungodly person may be a believer, but commits forbidden acts. This can happen even after becoming 'saved'. This person could even be part of a Christen church congregation, and perhaps, even be the minister of the church.

Romans 1:28 introduces us to the terminology, 'being turned over to a reprobate mind' [no further chance for salvation] in which case, the person becomes a 'zombie'...spiritually dead but carnally alive.

The scriptures COMMAND us to 'separate ourselves from the unrighteous/ungodly'. What if a 'saved' believer is married to an unrighteous/ungodly person, who refuses to change their ways, and God has turned them over to a reprobate mind? How do we, as 'believing' humans, know when another human being (even our spouse) has been turned over to a reprobate mind? First of all, if the person is our 'kindred', we would have to speak to this person, and try to convince them of changing their ways. If they refuse, then we should seek wisdom from God. Never should we use 'vanity' in order to base our decision on. God will direct us. This alleviates us from 'judging others'. If the person is not kindred, then simply separate yourself from this person...at ALL costs, including the necessity of finding a new job.

When a believer has separated from a spouse due to the above, he/she is allowed to remarry, but only to another 'saved' believer. Have no fear. God will direct you. Unfortunately, our legal system and our preachers may not agree with this, because they are in the dark. Ignore them. Concentrate on following God.

What is a forbidden act?

Try reading the Bible...especially Romans chapter 1.

SteelHead wrote:Were Adam and Eve married in the garden?

They would have to have been married directly by God, Himself. Wedding vows are taken in order to unite a man and a woman, to satisfy God, not man.

As there was no death in the garden, were they wed till death part?

SteelHead wrote:As there was no death in the garden, were they wed till death part?

If you were to get your head out from where it currently appears to be, you would be able to answer your own stupid question. You make no sense at all.

Thorwald wrote:

SteelHead wrote:As there was no death in the garden, were they wed till death part?

If you were to get your head out from where it currently appears to be, you would be able to answer your own stupid question. You make no sense at all.

My irony meter just 'sploded.....