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Please don't use the word, suicide, in this context.
Many people struggle with genuine suicidal thoughts.
Quitting the Mormon church is a more accurate and appropriate phrase.

What specific help are you seeking?

Assuming that's you in the 1st clip- you grew up LDS - it's part of you and you see conflicting aspects of that - reason to cherish and reason to break away. It's up to you and your family.

My approach (living in a very LDS area) is to keep strong boundaries while still enjoying some sense of community and opportunities to serve. I don't have a temple recommend because I cannot honestly give the acceptable answers for that.

If you join the baptist church, you'll find problems too. No group, person or organization will fit your dynamic ideal. Take the good, leave the rest.

Not looking for the ideal. That's in heaven. I follow the truth whereever that may lead.

Note this is Mormon Spiritual Suicide. Im willing excommunicated myself from the church. Thus im killing myself spiritually from the LDS faith via high council.

All i'm i looking for is answers to my questions from an LDS source. If these simple questions cannot be answered concerning the articles of faith then maybe its best i leave.

Two thoughts came to mind:

1. This is a plea for help.

2. This is a case of "I'm fed up and not going to take it anymore".

Members come and go every day from the Church. I think that those of us who remain Mormon should love them both coming and going. Your spiritual journey will continue no matter what pathway you choose.

Best wishes.

Think in terms of "That" church vs. THE CHURCH. I believe you will find greater joy with the realization that Mormons have never cornered the market on "Spirituality."

Mormon Suicide wrote: I follow the truth wherever that may lead.

Note this is Mormon Spiritual Suicide. Im willing excommunicated myself from the church. Thus im killing myself spiritually from the LDS faith via high council.

All i'm i looking for is answers to my questions from an LDS source. If these simple questions cannot be answered concerning the articles of faith then maybe its best i leave.

If you are leaving because it is not true than you will not be dying but finding a door which could potentially lead to more life. Of course it is a departure point for many possible paths and destinations not all of them good.

Your post sounds like some part of you is still hoping the LDS church is true and an LDS person will show you the truth of the church. That is an understandable thought, after all in this life there is no way to know for sure.

Sharing a couple thoughts about your questions in that you posted them to us message board participants....

First I have never heard the church attempt to make conclusive decisions about what in the Bible may be misleading. It has stuck solely with trusting further prophetic word to clarify. That is a sensible course. The potential limitations on Bible accuracy are deeper and more pervasive than translation errors. The phrase is obviously a nontechnical general statement. Looking in detail there are many more problems in transmission than translation. Behind translation there are questions as to what would be an original text. For much of the Bible, a result of editing, compiling and adjustment, the very meaning of original text may be a puzzle.

As a result for all churches and individuals the meaning of the Bible is a moving target developing over time within the context of people, the churches, experience.

I have heard it said that official LDS doctrine is the standard works. I do not know where in the standard works it says that and it is not possible to limit teaching and thinking in that way. I am afraid there is ambiguity in the very idea, official doctrine, which makes the question vague.

I think the name of God is a cultural derivative, words found in the Bible, a product of human language, not so who.

"For I am convinced that neither death, nor life neither angels nor demons, neither the present, nor the future, nor any powers; neither height, nor depth, nor anything else in all creation will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

Mormon Suicide wrote:Not looking for the ideal. That's in heaven. I follow the truth whereever that may lead.

Maybe you are genuinely looking for truth wherever it's found, but it seems you've still got blinders on. I doubt you want to look into ugly truths like HOW abortions are truly performed or true conditions of chickens, or many factories in China. I imagine your truth focus is limited to Christianity, not Greek Mythology or other symbolic belief systems.

We tend to seek our own ideal of truth.
Truth is in perspective and generally, the more perspectives the more truthful. One perspective of truth is subjective - that which causes influence even if the subjective belief is nonsense (placebo).

No matter where you turn, you won't find pure 100% bonified truth - it's always tainted by subjective illusions. We can't help but think in such subjectively limited ways. So it makes sense to seek such subjective beliefs that work for you rather than against you. Demanding others be objective when you & they they are not capable of isn't realistic. And anger and depression are the result of unrealistic expectations.

So, I'd suggest you find what works best for you, as far as a religious sense of community and focus your spiritual progress more independent of any group thought - Mormon, Baptist or Atheist.

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huckelberry:

Like I always say, It would be a whole lot easier if it was the truth and could be defended. The questions I posed are straight-forward in order to get the discussion going. To establish Mormon Worldview. The probability of it being truth is so low in my mind that it must be discarded. Nevertheless, Maybe just Maybe someone can answer these simple questions so that we can start the discussion. If the LDS can't even cohertly define what is official doctrine at this point in time, then I'm afraid we can't even have a discussion. At least one book or set of books. "Standard Works", General Conference talks, Ensign, Church publications in the last 100, 50, 25, 10, 5, or two years. The First Presidency should be able to provide those answers. They should be able to state what measure or standard which verse is translated correctly or not. If not, provide an "inspired" correction. They have had 150 years plus to do it.

How can we know God if we don't even know his name in Mormonism?

Mormon Suicide wrote: The questions I posed are straight-forward in order to get the discussion going. To establish Mormon Worldview.

Oh. Mormon Worldview.

Could they have scenes of a small gauge monorail train being menaced by BYU Raptors?