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1 Thessalonians 5
23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Genesis 1
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.


Genesis 11
5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. 6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. 7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.

Genesis 2:
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh

Deuteronomy 6
4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

Genesis 2 and Deuteronomy use the Hebrew word ECHOD which means composite unity or plural oneness

So what we have is God and man both three separate parts yet only ONE GOD or MAN or MARRIAGE

1X1X1 = 1 is the mathematical formula of the GODHEAD and MAN .

Isaiah 48

16 "Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me. " [ the speaker is the Lord himself ]

Mormonism on the other hand is 1+1+1 = 3 gods


"I have always declared God to be a distinct personage, Jesus Christ a separate and distinct personage from God the Father, and the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage and a Spirit: and these three constitute three distinct personages and three Gods," (Teachings of Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 370)

The Godhead consists of the three distinct personages and three gods.. The Father Son and Holy Spirit. The Father and Son have bodies of flesh and bones, while the Holy Spirit is a personage of spirit. Robert Millet A Different Jesus page 198

The trinity is three separate Gods: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. "That these three are separate individuals, physically distinct from each other, is demonstrated by the accepted records of divine dealings with man," (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 35).

Which is not Biblical or taught in the Book of Mormon

Mormonism teaches God was a Fallen, Exalted, Saved, Finite man like Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob .

"The Gods who dwell in the Heaven...have been redeemed from the grave in a world which existed before the foundations of this earth were laid. They and the Heavenly body which they now inhabit were once in a fallen state....they were exalted also, from fallen men to Celestial Gods to inhabit their Heaven forever and ever." (Apostle Orson Pratt in The Seer, page 23)

Would you think fallen means sinner In the 1844 LDS publication, Times and Seasons, volume 5, pages 613-614,... Joseph Smith reiterated that God was an exalted man and that Mormon men could also become Gods. This teaching is well documented, as is their claim that God is not a spirit being, but that he has a body of flesh and bone.

“God is a perfected, saved soul enjoying eternal life.” (Second Counselor in the First Presidency, Marion G. Romney, as per Salt Lake Tribune, April 3, 1977.)

It appears ridiculous to the world, under their darkened and erroneous traditions, that God has once been a finite being; and yet we are not in such close communion with him as many have supposed. He has passed on, and is exalted far beyond what we can now comprehend. Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 334

Doctrine and Covenant’s 132:
37 Abraham received concubines, and they bore him children; and it was accounted unto him for righteousness, because they were given unto him, and he abode in my law; as Isaac also and Jacob did none other things than that which they were commanded; and because they did none other things than that which they were commanded, they have entered into their exaltation, according to the promises, and sit upon thrones, and are not angels but are gods.

So...will there be a summary?

Maksutov wrote:So...will there be a summary?

The Book of Mormon nor the Bible agrees with Mormonism

How did the Jews finally arrive at that "one God of Israel" stuff? Had they been lead astray in a great apostasy?

moksha wrote:How did the Jews finally arrive at that "one God of Israel" stuff? Had they been lead astray in a great apostasy?

Would 28 scriptures in the Bible help

http://mit.irr.org/28-biblical-passages ... ly-one-god

The image of God and the structure of God was not made clear in the scriptures. This was done on purpose. This allows each of us to form God as we see fit. I suspect the real truth about God would be rejected so it was not given.

The Catholic church admits that they can not define exactly what the trinity is, but they require the members to believe it anyway. The LDS church has a different image of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. But that image is fuzzy as well. It makes for many more questions than answers.

I have my own views on God that few share. Like I said we all form what ever we wish to see.

Mittens wrote:Mormonism teaches God was a Fallen, Exalted, Saved, Finite man like Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob .

"The Gods who dwell in the Heaven...have been redeemed from the grave in a world which existed before the foundations of this earth were laid. They and the Heavenly body which they now inhabit were once in a fallen state....they were exalted also, from fallen men to Celestial Gods to inhabit their Heaven forever and ever." (Apostle Orson Pratt in The Seer, page 23)

Would you think fallen means sinner In the 1844 LDS publication, Times and Seasons, volume 5, pages 613-614,... Joseph Smith reiterated that God was an exalted man and that Mormon men could also become Gods. This teaching is well documented, as is their claim that God is not a spirit being, but that he has a body of flesh and bone.

“God is a perfected, saved soul enjoying eternal life.” (Second Counselor in the First Presidency, Marion G. Romney, as per Salt Lake Tribune, April 3, 1977.)

It appears ridiculous to the world, under their darkened and erroneous traditions, that God has once been a finite being; and yet we are not in such close communion with him as many have supposed. He has passed on, and is exalted far beyond what we can now comprehend. Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 334

Doctrine and Covenant’s 132:
37 Abraham received concubines, and they bore him children; and it was accounted unto him for righteousness, because they were given unto him, and he abode in my law; as Isaac also and Jacob did none other things than that which they were commanded; and because they did none other things than that which they were commanded, they have entered into their exaltation, according to the promises, and sit upon thrones, and are not angels but are gods.

Mormonism does NOT teach that God the Father was fallen.

The CCC wrote:

Mittens wrote:Mormonism teaches God was a Fallen, Exalted, Saved, Finite man like Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob .

Mormonism does NOT teach that God the Father was fallen.

I remember get the impression from what I was taught that there was some ambiguity or lack of clarity there. If he was not why in the world did we have to have a fallen Adam ? wouldn't an unfallen Adsm be more progressive, if not necessary?

Genesis 1
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

I don't think that one can state that that Old Testament Biblical Passage teaches the Trinity. One should go instead to Matthew 28:19-20.

19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. (NKJV)

Would 28 scriptures in the Bible help

The Book of Mormon states that there is just one God.

Alma 11:

[26] And Zeezrom said unto him: Thou sayest there is a true and living God?

[27] And Amulek said: Yea, there is a true and living God.

[28] Now Zeezrom said: Is there more than one God?

[29] And he answered, No.

[30] Now Zeezrom said unto him again: How knowest thou these things?

[31] And he said: An angel hath made them known unto me.



Then later on in that same Chapter, Christ the Son, God the Father, and the Holy Spirit are described as one Eternal God.

Alma 11:

[44] Now, this restoration shall come to all, both old and young, both bond and free, both male and female, both the wicked and the righteous; and even there shall not so much as a hair of their heads be lost; but every thing shall be restored to its perfect frame, as it is now, or in the body, and shall be brought and be arraigned before the bar of Christ the Son, and God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, which is one Eternal God, to be judged according to their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil.