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Nazi American Ties to the Book of Mormon

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:37 pm
by _Maksutov
Not only do May and Meldrum's followers buy into their nonsense, but accept the guidance of a convicted Nazi molester. Frank Collins was a prominent American Nazi who terrorized the Jewish population of Skokie before changing his name to Frank Joseph (and carrying the torch for the racist fraud also known as the Book of Mormon) as editor of May's Ancient American magazine. Looks inspired to me. :wink:



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http://www.flavinscorner.com/collin.htm

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/fring ... ph-problem

http://www.ldsarchaeology.com/ancient-a ... cials.html

Re: Nazi American Ties to the Book of Mormon

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:59 am
by _Hagoth
I remember getting so excited when I first came across Ancient American magazine and thought I had found a genuine source of support for the Book of Mormon, but it didn't take long to sense the unsettling agenda behind it all. There are still white supremacists and closet white supremicists, inside of the church and out, sticking to the notion that the Indians are an inferior/cursed people who couldn't have possibly built the mounds or created the civilizations of ancient America. Surely it had to be white people.

The apologetic bandaid of claiming that the Book of Mormon actually means "darkened countenance" when it says "skin of blackness" only scratches the surface of the underlying racism that was raging when the book was written, the kind of thinking that soothed the conscience of the European transplants as they marched the beaten-down original inhabitants of the land off to the reservations.

But it's not just the skin color references that are the problem. It's turtles all the way down.

You can spot these types a mile away. They love to point out that the skulls of ancient American skeletons have been described as "Caucasian" (not actually accurate, the outdated Caucasoid descriptor includes a wide range people once found in Siberia, Japan & Polynesia) but they brush off all of the subsequent science that firmly establishes those same individuals as thoroughly Native American.

So, I'm not surprised at this kind of connection. The underlying concept of the Book of Mormon story has a definite appeal for these kinds of folks.

Re: Nazi American Ties to the Book of Mormon

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 2:12 am
by _Quasimodo
Hagoth wrote:You can spot these types a mile away. They love to point out that the skulls of ancient American skeletons have been described as "Caucasian" (not actually accurate, the outdated Caucasoid descriptor includes a wide range people once found in Siberia, Japan & Polynesia) but they brush off all of the subsequent science that firmly establishes those same individuals as thoroughly Native American.

So, I'm not surprised at this kind of connection. The underlying concept of the Book of Mormon story has a definite appeal for these kinds of folks.

+1

Nothing annoys me more in the Book of Mormon than the implicit idea that Native Americans could not have created great structures like Cahokia and Chaco Canyon.

Racism at it's worst.

Re: Nazi American Ties to the Book of Mormon

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 2:40 pm
by _Maksutov
Quasimodo wrote:
Hagoth wrote:You can spot these types a mile away. They love to point out that the skulls of ancient American skeletons have been described as "Caucasian" (not actually accurate, the outdated Caucasoid descriptor includes a wide range people once found in Siberia, Japan & Polynesia) but they brush off all of the subsequent science that firmly establishes those same individuals as thoroughly Native American.

So, I'm not surprised at this kind of connection. The underlying concept of the Book of Mormon story has a definite appeal for these kinds of folks.

+1

Nothing annoys me more in the Book of Mormon than the implicit idea that Native Americans could not have created great structures like Cahokia and Chaco Canyon.

Racism at it's worst.

It's also common in some groups of ancient astronaut believers and for the same reasons. :rolleyes:

Re: Nazi American Ties to the Book of Mormon

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 12:12 pm
by _2bizE
I thought from the title this discussion was going to be about David Bednar. My bad. I guess not.

Re: Nazi American Ties to the Book of Mormon

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:58 pm
by _Always Changing
Maksutov wrote:It's also common in some groups of ancient astronaut believers and for the same reasons. :rolleyes:
I think they are Jack-Mormons looking for something to believe in. I watch that show for its entertainment value.

Re: Nazi American Ties to the Book of Mormon

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:50 pm
by _Themis
Maksutov wrote:It's also common in some groups of ancient astronaut believers and for the same reasons. :rolleyes:


Now don't go badmouthing our ancient astronauts. :mad:

Re: Nazi American Ties to the Book of Mormon

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:23 pm
by _Quasimodo
Themis wrote:
Maksutov wrote:It's also common in some groups of ancient astronaut believers and for the same reasons. :rolleyes:


Now don't go badmouthing our ancient astronauts. :mad:


Yeah! Leave Mork outta this.

Re: Nazi American Ties to the Book of Mormon

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:18 am
by _Kishkumen
Ouch. Well, this is a dark corner. I had no idea the racist aspect of Meldrum was so deliberate and substantive. I though it was more on the level of susceptible to racist interpretation than actively racist.

Re: Nazi American Ties to the Book of Mormon

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:38 pm
by _Always Changing
Kishkumen wrote:Ouch. Well, this is a dark corner. I had no idea the racist aspect of Meldrum was so deliberate and substantive. I though it was more on the level of susceptible to racist interpretation than actively racist.
The original intent of the authors of the Book of Mormon was egregiously racist. And many LDS naturally followed in that footprint. As for Meldrum, I refuse to judge. Would he be racist if someone were to point out how racist it is?