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The Adamic language

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:56 am
by _Johannes
I have been reading Bruce McConkie's Mormon Doctrine. One subject of particular interest to me is the Adamic language.

It seems to me that two things intersect here:

    There is a long tradition in Western thought of attempting to identify the language which was spoken by Adam. Hebrew was always a favourite candidate, but there were others. John Dee claimed that the "Adamical" language had been revealed to him. Joseph Smith evidently stood in this tradition. If we know what language Adam spoke, we can get closer to the sacred time of the creation and hence closer to God.

    There is the more general, and widespread, phenomenon of using sacred languages for religious purposes: Koranic Arabic in Islam, Latin in Roman Catholicism, Sanskrit in Hinduism. The sentiment seems to be that special texts and utterances (e.g. scripture) need a special language.

Re: The Adamic language

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:57 am
by _Johannes
What do we know about Adamic?

In the beginning God gave Adam a language that was pure, perfect, and undefiled. This Adamic language, now unknown, was far superior to any tongue which is presently extant. For instance, the name of God the Father, in this original language, is Man of Holiness, signifying that he is a Holy Man and not a vague spiritual essence. (Moses 6:57.)


This first language spoken by mortals was either the celestial tongue of the Gods or such adaptation of it as was necessary to meet the limitations of mortality; and Adam and his posterity had power to speak, read, and write it. (Way to Perfection, pp. 60-69.) In writing of the saints in the day of the first man, Moses says: "And a book of remembrance was kept, in the language of Adam, for it was given unto as many as called upon God to write by the spirit of inspiration; And by them their children were taught to read and write, having a language which was pure and undefiled." (Moses 6:5-6.) The beauty and power of this Adamic language is indicated by a statement made by Moroni to the Lord about the Brother of Jared (who spoke the original and pure language): "Thou madest him that the things which he wrote were mighty even as thou art unto the oveipowering of man to read them." (Ether 12:24.)


This tells us that:
    Adamic was a pure, perfect language. This is no surprise, as it came from God.
    The names of things in Adamic have a close relationship with those things themselves.

Re: The Adamic language

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:58 am
by _Johannes
The Adamic language is not just a thing of the past - it will be the language of the future, and it can even be accessed in the present day:

During the millennium, it appears that men will again have power to speak and write the Adamic language. Of that day the Lord says he will "turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the Lord, to serve him with one consent." (Zeph. 3:9.) In some instances when the saints speak in tongues, the language impressed upon them by the power of the Spirit is the pure Adamic tongue.

Re: The Adamic language

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:02 am
by _Johannes
Most strangely of all, some words in Adamic resemble words that are still in common use today:

"There is one revelation," Orson Pratt said, "that this people are not generally acquainted with. I think it has never been published, but probably will be in the Church History. It is given in questions and answers. The first question is, 'What is the name of God in the pure language?' The answer says, 'Ahman.' 'What is the name of the Son of God?' Answer, son Ahman - the greatest of all the parts of God excepting Ahman.' 'What is the name of men?' sons Ahman,' is the answer. 'What is the name of angels in the pure language?' Angloman.
"This revelation goes on to say that Sons Ahman are the greatest of all the parts of God excepting Son Ahman and Ahman, and that Angloman are the greatest of all the parts of God excepting Sons Ahman, Son Ahman and Ahman, showing that the angels are a little lower than man." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 342.)


Because angels are of the same race as man and God, it is with perfect logic that in the pure language spoken by Adam, they were designated as Anglo-man. This is in harmony with the Adamic designation of God as Ahman, of the Son as Son Ahman, and of men generally as Sons Airman.


Worldly, profane linguists would tell us that "son" is a Germanic word and "angel" comes from a Greek term. But it seems that the prophets, seers and revelators have confirmed that they are survivals of the language of God himself.

Re: The Adamic language

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:07 pm
by _Maksutov
Johannes wrote:I have been reading Bruce McConkie's Mormon Doctrine. One subject of particular interest to me is the Adamic language.

It seems to me that two things intersect here:

    There is a long tradition in Western thought of attempting to identify the language which was spoken by Adam. Hebrew was always a favourite candidate, but there were others. John Dee claimed that the "Adamical" language had been revealed to him. Joseph Smith evidently stood in this tradition. If we know what language Adam spoke, we can get closer to the sacred time of the creation and hence closer to God.

    There is the more general, and widespread, phenomenon of using sacred languages for religious purposes: Koranic Arabic in Islam, Latin in Roman Catholicism, Sanskrit in Hinduism. The sentiment seems to be that special texts and utterances (e.g. scripture) need a special language.


Indeed. John Dee and Edward Kelley discovered that the angels speak Enochian. And George Hunt Williamson discovered that all aliens speak Solex Mal. In Middle Earth the most elevated language was certainly Elvish. :wink:

Re: The Adamic language

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:07 pm
by _Johannes
Maksutov wrote:And George Hunt Williamson discovered that all aliens speak Solex Mal.


Yes, but Gene Roddenberry put him straight on that.

Re: The Adamic language

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:51 pm
by _spotlight
How can I get a hold of John Dee? I would like to know the translation of "titty twister" in the pure Adamic tongue.

Re: The Adamic language

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:07 pm
by _Philo Sofee
Since the entire story of Adam and Eve is a mythological construct, of course, the "Adamic language" is as well. One of the most interesting destructions of this myth as reality and history for me was reading Jerry Coyne's "Faith Vs. Fact," pp. 125-129 where he demonstrates that evolutionary genetic scientists have shown the population could never have been as small as two individuals, let alone a mere 8 as in the Noah flood story. "We can back-calculate from the observed genetic diversity in our species to foind out roughly when different forms of human genes diverged from one another, and how many forms of a given gene existed at a given time. Because each human has two copies of each gene, this gives us a minimum estimate of how many humans existed at a given time."


There never was just two humans alone on our planet. The Y chromosome from the "Y-chromosome Adam" was in a single man around 120,000 and 340,000 years ago... the rest of our genome descends from a multiple of different ancestors who lived at various times ranging from 10,000 to about 4 million years ago. Our genome testifies to literally hundreds of 'Adams and Eves' who lived at different times - a result of the fact that different parts of our DNA were inherited differently based on the vagaries of reproduction and the random division of genes when sperm and eggs were formed."

So, "different parts of our genomes have different ages, some going back millions of years and they come from different ancestors, completely dispel the biblical date of human origins and the idea that all of our DNA was bequeathed by a primal couple." (p. 127)

That, my dear friends, is amazingly powerful to refute Adam and Eve and this nonsense about Adam's language.

Re: The Adamic language

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:08 pm
by _Philo Sofee
spotlight wrote:How can I get a hold of John Dee? I would like to know the translation of "titty twister" in the pure Adamic tongue.


You can communicate with him via a seer istone. His number is 1-800-don't-call-me-after-midnight-I-am-sleeping.

Re: The Adamic language

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:21 am
by _Maksutov
spotlight wrote:How can I get a hold of John Dee? I would like to know the translation of "titty twister" in the pure Adamic tongue.


If you watch From Dusk Till Dawn, you'll see the Reformed Egyptian symbol for it over the establishment. That's the best I can do. :cool: