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John 8: 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.


Genesis 14:18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. 19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: 20And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

Psalm 110
4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.

Zechariah 6: 13 Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

Isaiah 9
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even forever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

Hebrews 7


1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; 2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; 3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

Can you explain how to use this information?

Maksutov wrote:Can you explain how to use this information?

Sure watch the Video link on top

Mittens wrote:

Maksutov wrote:Can you explain how to use this information?

Sure watch the Video link on top

video? video with upper case v?
it were about 30 lines in print (one line for every half minute), readable in 30 seconds.
that video is for that type illiterates, like those who commented it with blessings, thanks and enjoys...

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Mittens wrote:

Maksutov wrote:Can you explain how to use this information?

Sure watch the Video link on top

No thanks. If you don't have time to explain it, I don't have time to watch it.

Melchizedek and Jesus were the same. But, what does that mean?

There isn't enough "proof" to even validate that Melchizedek or Jesus were real people.
The old scriptures refer to both Melchizedek and Jesus as "spirits, ideas, concepts, authorities, etc." That we automatically assume the "savior" and "high priest" mean human is nobody's fault.

Melchizedek was named such that his name meant, "Order of the Son of God." The "idea" of these God powers being bestowed on humans is old.

And what does that mean to us? Are we really looking for a man, of middle eastern complexion, to step up and claim to be the Son of God and rule the world? Not me! For me, the Son of God is a more of a cosmic power, something that can and should rule over the universe. Essentially, the idea of Love and Respect should play such a role.

Perhaps, perhaps not.

uncertain speculation built on ambiguities, general similarities signifying nothing.

Now if the idea had some effective significance it would be worth more consideration.

SPG wrote:Melchizedek and Jesus were the same. But, what does that mean?

that means: in the Mormon pantheon there are not enough characters. many of them should be duplicated

- melchizedec and Jesus are the same; as Jesus is jehovah
melchizedec=Jesus=jehovah
melchizedec/Jesus/jehovah is not alone as triune; maybe trinity?
noah, elias and gabriel are the same
Joseph Fielding Smith has summarized the argument for Noah being this Elias as follows:

“Joseph Smith revealed that Gabriel was Noah; Luke declared that it was the angel Gabriel who appeared to Zacharias and Mary, and the Lord has declared that Elias appeared to Zacharias and Joseph Smith. Therefore, Elias is Noah”

(Smith, Answers to Gospel Questions, 3:141).

Joseph Fielding Smith

Following the death of President David O. McKay, Joseph Fielding Smith became President of the Church on January 23, 1970 at age ninety-three

a freshwater guy, especially ninety-three-old, and one more of smiths...

many times, he is referenced a joseph; as far i know, there is only one prophetseerandrevelator who MAY called joseph
- and the fourth "smith", like castros in cuba, like kimjongs in north korea
- saudi arabias don't count; they are buddy because of their oil

adam and michael? --- skip; weakly described

jekyll and hyde? --- at least they/he are/is better portrayed than any character of Book of Mormon

007 agents? there are a dozen, all of them fit (my best option is sean connery)

- instead of list of all 007s the james bond island:

It's about as meaningful as claiming that Jesus was a Jedi. Go for it!

Choyo Chagas wrote:- melchizedec and Jesus are the same; as Jesus is jehovah
melchizedec=Jesus=jehovah
melchizedec/Jesus/jehovah is not alone as triune; maybe trinity?
noah, elias and gabriel are the same

Because my old friend Choyo Chagas is famous for his love of videos, I offer this as an explanation as to how identity probably works in the spirit world. (Please note that I am not a faithless friend, Choyo: this video has subtitles.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VxLQZPqI2M

If it makes no sense, you haven't prayed about it enough.

(For those who worry about links that are not accompanied by an adequate description, do yourself a favor and don't bother clicking on this one. You're welcome.)