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Here are three tests the Book of Mormon cannot pass ---

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-blIaq4SPY

Still can't write, eh? Have to link and run? I don't want to look at Youtube. If you have something to say, spit it out. Does this look like a Youtube channel to you?

The Book of Mormon is a pretty wide target. I am unable to see the Bible passing the same tests with the ease this presenter believes. He mentions secular confirmation of the hours of darkness at the crucifixion. I am unfamiliar with such and am shocked to hear the claim. He also says it was a miraculous solar eclipse.

Darkness of a solar eclipse is a couple minutes not hours.

Maksutov wrote:Still can't write, eh? Have to link and run? I don't want to look at Youtube. If you have something to say, spit it out. Does this look like a Youtube channel to you?

Never watch TV, eh? Why should I restate that which has already has been stated very concisely.

huckelberry wrote:The Book of Mormon is a pretty wide target. I am unable to see the Bible passing the same tests with the ease this presenter believes. He mentions secular confirmation of the hours of darkness at the crucifixion. I am unfamiliar with such and am shocked to hear the claim. He also says it was a miraculous solar eclipse.

Darkness of a solar eclipse is a couple minutes not hours.

The Bible say 3 hours and Book of Mormon says 3 days. The Book of Mormon is in error. https://creation.com/darkness-at-the-cr ... al-history

So an account of darkness at the crucifixion in the Bible that has 0 outside contemporary sources is correct, and the Book of Mormon meeting the same standard is incorrect?

I don't think you understand how this evidence thing works.

SteelHead wrote:So an account of darkness at the crucifixion in the Bible that has 0 outside contemporary sources is correct, and the Book of Mormon meeting the same standard is incorrect?

I don't think you understand how this evidence thing works.

You're greatly mistaken https://creation.com/darkness-at-the-cr ... al-history

LittleNipper wrote:

SteelHead wrote:So an account of darkness at the crucifixion in the Bible that has 0 outside contemporary sources is correct, and the Book of Mormon meeting the same standard is incorrect?

I don't think you understand how this evidence thing works.

You're greatly mistaken https://creation.com/darkness-at-the-cr ... al-history

Gospel accounts are derived from Mark. Apologists from 2nd and 3rd century are referencing a source that is lost and are suspect. They are no more valid than current Book of Mormon apologists referencing the Book of Mormon as a source.

There is no mention in the Roman histories and they were known to keep extensive records. It is a similar event to other periods of darkness in Jewish writings at the death of a notable figure.

The majority of manuscripts of the Gospel of Luke have the Greek phrase eskotisthe ho helios ("the sun was darkened"), but the earliest manuscripts say tou heliou eklipontos ("the sun's light failed" or "the sun was in eclipse").

The earliest copies of Luke ascribe it to an eclipse, yet no eclipse that matches the time frame is possible, and an eclipse has a maximum period of seven some odd minutes.

The earthquake and dead rising are only found in Mathew, and John mentions none of these events. The events in Mathew are simar to the millieu of Jewish apocalyptic writings of the time. So it seems a literary invention to add gravitas to the story.

It is another example of the Bible making crap up, but because you approach the Bible as innerant, you have to engage in gymnastics to justify it.

The gospels are not primary sources, and there are 0 contemporary sources to corroborate with. It is a common motif from Jewish apocalyptic writings and an eclipse during the Passover season can't happen. But yeah, bag on the Book of Mormon cuz your fiction is more correct... ???

LittleNipper wrote: The Bible say 3 hours and Book of Mormon says 3 days. The Book of Mormon is in error. https://creation.com/darkness-at-the-cr ... al-history

Well there is a bit of interest there but the information about the source is very thin in this link. I looked a bit further,

https://infidels.org/library/modern/ric ... allus.html

What is happening with the source has serious uncertainty. It is quite possible a reference to an eclipse in the general time of Jesus got applied to the the gospel reports in later centuries by Christian apologists. It is not completely certain if that is what happened I gather. The non Christian source or sources(uncertain) have long disappeared. There is only Christian apologists remarking about it.

LittleNipper wrote:

huckelberry wrote:The Book of Mormon is a pretty wide target. I am unable to see the Bible passing the same tests with the ease this presenter believes. He mentions secular confirmation of the hours of darkness at the crucifixion. I am unfamiliar with such and am shocked to hear the claim. He also says it was a miraculous solar eclipse.

Darkness of a solar eclipse is a couple minutes not hours.

The Bible say 3 hours and Book of Mormon says 3 days. The Book of Mormon is in error. https://creation.com/darkness-at-the-cr ... al-history

The Book of Mormon story and the Bible story are happening on opposite sides of the world. No reason for the time to be the same.