Book of Mormon Geography

[yellowstone123]

The Wicker Man is dead wrong. Why didn't the writers of the Book of Mormon notice their butts being kicked by the Romans when they (the Romans) invaded?

I’m no scholar on the subject … pasted below is the best answer to a badly worded question. The Wicker Man discussed it extensively with a couple of guys from Europe, and none said anything about it. I’ll append a link where said Wicker Man may respond.

https://www.answers.com/geography/What_ ... _conquered

What countries did the ancient Roman's conquered?

There's a problem about that. In ancient times there weren't the countries we know today... the question would be, which territories the ancient Roman Empire enclosed.
"http://www.michaelmaxwolf.de/antike/ROM ... _reich.htm" - this is an address in the net to have a look at the biggest expansion the ancient roman empire had in the year 117 AD (checked the 1st of April 2008 - map working 3:41 a.m. MEZ+1).

You can see the expansion from the handrian's wall (I guess that's the name) in Scotland to the south (north Africa), enclosing territories of today's marocco, lybia, Tunisia, Egypt to the irak...

Re: Book of Mormon Land is England Thread

Hey Spy, here's link to a link John Wilson books on how ancient Israel migration influenced Europes present circumstances. Wilson wrote on a lot of things.

https://www.amazon.com/stores/John-Wils ... abled=true

[yellowstone123]

The Wicker Man is dead wrong. Why didn't the writers of the Book of Mormon notice their butts being kicked by the Romans when they (the Romans) invaded?

I’m no scholar on the subject … pasted below is the best answer to a badly worded question. The Wicker Man discussed it extensively with a couple of guys from Europe, and none said anything about it. I’ll append a link where said Wicker Man may respond.

https://www.answers.com/geography/What_ ... _conquered

What countries did the ancient Roman's conquered?

There's a problem about that. In ancient times there weren't the countries we know today... the question would be, which territories the ancient Roman Empire enclosed.
"http://www.michaelmaxwolf.de/antike/ROM ... _reich.htm" - this is an address in the net to have a look at the biggest expansion the ancient roman empire had in the year 117 AD (checked the 1st of April 2008 - map working 3:41 a.m. MEZ+1).

You can see the expansion from the handrian's wall (I guess that's the name) in Scotland to the south (north Africa), enclosing territories of today's marocco, lybia, Tunisia, Egypt to the irak...

Re: Book of Mormon Land is England Thread

Hey Spy, thank you for thoughts and links. Here's a link to the writings of 19th century writer John Wilson and his thoughts on the connection of ancient Israel and England. It appears he had many interest:

https://www.amazon.com/stores/John-Wils ... abled=true

But I'll again write to you as I wrote in the past to Shulem. On the paternal side, my grandpa lived in a small town around the Rochester New York area and worked at Kodak. He would travel via a "narrow neck of land" to Toronto, Canada see a young lady he liked who eventually became my grandmother. When my dad grew up in the area, extremely poor and in bad circumstances it was joining the Marines that sent him to California where he met my mom in the early 1950s, but in the first two decades of life in the 1930s and 1940s, Mormons were not a hot topic with him and his friends, but they started in New York a century earlier.

During my first 20 years in Southern California, I would watch an hour program from Herbert Armstrong who ran the World Wide Church of God. A real nice fellow on T.V., a Hinkley type, I believe that group also believed that England had a link to Israel.

Today, one can clearly tract from Eastern Europe the migration of Ashkenazi Jews to the area between Beirut and Egypt, so today I'll call it Palestine as other great writers on the board have put it, but Sephardic Jews also returned from even closer lands, especially after the new or restored Israel declared indepenced in the late 1940s. The Jewish population like all our ancestors tended to pull up states and move somewhere via a new thought just that morning. I'm sure violence towards them was a factor, but some people want new scenery in the morning so they grab their goods and moved some place else.

But Marcus's recent post are pretty clear of what occurred and how The Book of Mormon was created, but new things are dug up everyday causing scientists in the area and field to scratch their noggins and look confused.

But, in the end it was the Homo sapiens that moved north out of Africa into the Jerusalem area, met some hot Homo neanderthals from northern Europe who migrated south, did something like rub foreheads which meant a week long marriage and approval from the Gods, then spent a few nights in the area of Gaza, or maybe further north, gathered and hunted something edible, mated, enjoyed the scenery, mated again and again, rubbed foreheads again which signaled a divorce approved by the gods, and looked for other mates and food. But in the end it was the Homo sapiens that were in circumstances that allowed them to survive and thrive, the other five Homo groups went extinct. Many bright writers say it's only a matter of time before Homo sapiens go instinct and with my skills of discernment, I say it will happen in England.

[bill4long]

And Peterson doesn’t have anything to add other than constant yapping about nothing.

But Toto chased the lion before the lion joined the crew, and do a good and wise thing by pulling the curtain back from the Wizard, revealing his true nature. Doesn't seem like a fitting analogy.

[Shulem]

Dear Readers,

I pose a question for nonbelievers regarding Joseph Smith’s original vision of the “narrow neck” which is the most distinctive geographical element of Book of Mormon geography. The narrow neck really is the key in isolating the exact spot in which Smith based the all-important city of Bountiful which lay directly southward.

So, ask yourself, do you suppose Joseph Smith visualized the narrow neck by looking at an actual map shown on an atlas or globe?

[ ] Yes
[ ] No

If yes, which neck do you suppose he plugged into the text of the Book of Mormon? Please don’t evade the question! Provide yourself an answer you think best solves the mystery and take a stand. You owe it to yourself to formulate a solution that resonates with your understanding of what Smith was thinking. This thread provides all the tools you need to measure, calculate, and determine the very neck of land which Smith surveyed into his story. So, step up to the plate and take a swing. Make your position clear because you owe it to yourself to know the truth.

[ ] Delmarva
[ ] Panama
[ ] Other

PS. Failure to take a stand means you are a coward. I realize it’s provocative for me to make that accusation, but I say it again, YOU are a coward if you refuse to take a stand.

[bill4long]

Etc

The way I see it simple. Rusty, put the seer stone in the hat and ask already.

Has he even tried? Something tells me no.

Oh ye (Rusty "prophet, seer and revelator") of little faith.

[Shulem]

The way I see it simple. Rusty, put the seer stone in the hat and ask already.

Has he even tried? Something tells me no.

Oh ye (Rusty "prophet, seer and revelator") of little faith.

You see correct and are are spot on, Bill.

President Nelson is so brainwashed and conditioned to think on a level that is so out of bounds of reality that he might as well be living on another planet. What he knows about Book of Mormon geography is on a child’s level and has no bearing whatsoever on his personal testimony, Nelson has surrendered his mind to the ®Spirit and ®Corporation which bought his soul. Believe it or not, in a way, he has no freewill or free agency in which to think for himself in which if he did, he would come to the realization that his testimony has been rightly challenged by thinkers outside his faith. Nelson has long since determined beforehand that his Church is true no matter what, but in reality, we know the opposite is true. We have an informed testimony based on intelligence and know the Church is false! But Nelson is not capable of discerning truth from error because he lives in a total fantasy of his own making and sees only what he wants to see within the bounds the Church has set. Again, President Nelson knows little about Book of Mormon geography because he doesn’t think about it and doesn’t care. He is a prisoner of Mormonism and his only desire is to pay allegiance to the Church and make appearances to display his personal piety to the faith. The circus act he performs as President of the Church is utterly revolting! His entire demeanor and character makes me ill just thinking about it.

[yellowstone123]

Thanks for all your hard work, Shulem. For me Bountiful is Rochester N.Y which you might say includes the finger lakes area of upstate New York. I need to read more about creating a person, place or thing in fiction. In one of my favorite books, Brideshead Revisited, there is a character named Anthony Blanche. Evelyn Waugh created him by combining two people he attended Oxford with who were Harold Acton and Brian Howard. The scene of Anthony Blanche reciting T.H. Elliot's, The Wasteland out the window with a megaphone was done by Harold Acton.

[Shulem]

Thanks for all your hard work, Shulem. For me Bountiful is Rochester N.Y which you might say includes the finger lakes area of upstate New York. I need to read more about creating a person, place or thing in fiction. In one of my favorite books, Brideshead Revisited, there is a character named Anthony Blanche. Evelyn Waugh created him by combining two people he attended Oxford with who were Harold Acton and Brian Howard. The scene of Anthony Blanche reciting T.H. Elliot's, The Wasteland out the window with a megaphone was done by Harold Acton.

Thank you for expressing appreciation for my work, yellowstone. I trust you are aware that there are a great many discrepancies I could point out with the Niagara Neck Theory as it relates to what is described in the text. Well, if that was what Smith was contemplating then I would love to go back in time and tell him how dumb he is in creating mumble jumble with his directions, orientation, and time and distance. But if you feel that is what Smith was eyeing on a map while contemplating and building his story, I won’t hold you back. To each his own.