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WHO or WHICH is most important?
Posted: Mon May 04, 2026 3:49 pm
by LittleNipper
Is JOSEPH SMITH more important than Jesus the Christ? Is Jesus the Christ more important than JOSEPH SMITH or are THEY both equal? Why or why not?
Also, is the Bible more important than the Book of Mormon or are THEY both of equal value? Why or why not?
Re: WHO or WHICH is most important?
Posted: Mon May 04, 2026 4:20 pm
by Shulem
Who are you asking this question to?
As a nonbeliever, I don’t believe in the biblical claims or the divinity of Christ as a Savior of mankind. But I suspect a wise man named Jesus once lived and early Christians perverted his teachings to whatever effect.
I believe everyone is equal and everyone is one. We are the ocean in a drop or a drop in the ocean -- take your pick. Nobody is any better or of more worth than anyone else.
To hell with the ego! I got rid of mine for now. It is very liberating.
All is one.
Re: WHO or WHICH is most important?
Posted: Mon May 04, 2026 4:30 pm
by LittleNipper
Shulem wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2026 4:20 pm
Who are you asking this question to?
As a nonbeliever, I don’t believe in the biblical claims or the divinity of Christ as a Savior of mankind. But I suspect a wise man named Jesus once lived and early Christians perverted his teachings to whatever effect.
I believe everyone is equal and everyone is one. We are the ocean in a drop or a drop in the ocean -- take your pick. Nobody is any better or of more worth than anyone else.
To hell with the ego! I got rid of mine for now. It is very liberating.
All is one.
The question is primarily directed to those who hold to LDS doctrine. Since you don't believe in GOD, that would absolve you from having much of an opinion in this matter that is relevant.
Re: WHO or WHICH is most important?
Posted: Mon May 04, 2026 5:11 pm
by Shulem
LittleNipper wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2026 4:30 pm
The question is primarily directed to those who hold to LDS doctrine. Since you don't believe in GOD, that would absolve you from having much of an opinion in this matter that is relevant.
You have no call to say I don’t believe in God. My post revealed that I don’t believe in the God of the Bible or the LDS version of God.
Re: WHO or WHICH is most important?
Posted: Mon May 04, 2026 5:30 pm
by LittleNipper
Shulem wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2026 5:11 pm
LittleNipper wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2026 4:30 pm
The question is primarily directed to those who hold to LDS doctrine. Since you don't believe in GOD, that would absolve you from having much of an opinion in this matter that is relevant.
You have no call to say I don’t believe in God. My post revealed that I don’t believe in the God of the Bible or the LDS version of God.
Again, here is your original post:
"As a nonbeliever, I don’t believe in the biblical claims or the divinity of Christ as a Savior of mankind. But I suspect a wise man named Jesus once lived and early Christians perverted his teachings to whatever effect.
I believe everyone is equal and everyone is one. We are the ocean in a drop or a drop in the ocean -- take your pick. Nobody is any better or of more worth than anyone else.
To hell with the ego! I got rid of mine for now. It is very liberating.
Apparently you didn't make yourself entirely clear. However, the reality is that the thread I posted regards the Bible and the Book of Mormon, and Jesus Christ and JOSEPH SMITH. Your views of early Christians is irrelevant to this particular discussion as you deny Christianity and even the LDS consider themselves "Christian". You did ask the question, regarding
to whom am I addressing this question to? Obviously, you don't like the answer I provided.
Re: WHO or WHICH is most important?
Posted: Mon May 04, 2026 6:36 pm
by Shulem
LittleNipper wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2026 5:30 pm
Again, here is your original post:
"As a nonbeliever, I don’t believe in the biblical claims or the divinity of Christ as a Savior of mankind. But I suspect a wise man named Jesus once lived and early Christians perverted his teachings to whatever effect.
I believe everyone is equal and everyone is one. We are the ocean in a drop or a drop in the ocean -- take your pick. Nobody is any better or of more worth than anyone else.
To hell with the ego! I got rid of mine for now. It is very liberating.
Apparently you didn't make yourself entirely clear.
Let me make myself entirely clear by saying I do not believe in the God of the Bible or the divinity of Christ as a Savior and nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet and has any right to tell me what to do.
I hope that helps.
But, I do believe in
God. The real God!
LittleNipper wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2026 5:30 pm
However, the reality is that the thread I posted regards the Bible and the Book of Mormon, and Jesus Christ and JOSEPH SMITH. Your views of early Christians is irrelevant to this particular discussion as you deny Christianity and even the LDS consider themselves "Christian". You did ask the question, regarding
to whom am I addressing this question to? Obviously, you don't like the answer I provided.
I disagree, my views are entirely
relevant and I got my eyes on this thread. I am welcome to participate and comment as much as I want as a nonbeliever of the Bible God and a believer in the real God.
Thank you.
Re: WHO or WHICH is most important?
Posted: Mon May 04, 2026 11:54 pm
by LittleNipper
Shulem wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2026 6:36 pm
Let me make myself entirely clear by saying I do not believe in the God of the Bible or the divinity of Christ as a Savior and nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet and has any right to tell me what to do.
I hope that helps.
But, I do believe in
God. The real God!
I disagree, my views are entirely
relevant and I got my eyes on this thread. I am welcome to participate and comment as much as I want as a nonbeliever of the Bible God and a believer in the real God.
Thank you.
You say you believe in the real God. What do you base your beliefs on? Why would not the "real" God attempt to interact with HIS creation by contacting man through Divine Inspiration?
Re: WHO or WHICH is most important?
Posted: Tue May 05, 2026 12:38 am
by Shulem
LittleNipper wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2026 11:54 pm
You say you believe in the real God.
Yes, I said that. Correct.
LittleNipper wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2026 11:54 pm
What do you base your beliefs on?
My eyes are open and I am awake.
LittleNipper wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2026 11:54 pm
Why would not the "real" God attempt to interact with HIS creation by contacting man through Divine Inspiration?
The real God is in constant contact with humans every day all over this planet. The idea of creation is not comparable with that of mythical terms given in the Bible. We probably do not agree on what classifies “Divine inspiration.”
Also, God is not a
“HE”. The Infinite God is both Male and Female in principle -- but more Female because She gives birth to everything that manifests in the multi-universes.
Re: WHO or WHICH is most important?
Posted: Tue May 05, 2026 10:38 am
by LittleNipper
Shulem wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2026 12:38 am
LittleNipper wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2026 11:54 pm
You say you believe in the real God.
Yes, I said that. Correct.
LittleNipper wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2026 11:54 pm
What do you base your beliefs on?
My eyes are open and I am awake.
LittleNipper wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2026 11:54 pm
Why would not the "real" God attempt to interact with HIS creation by contacting man through Divine Inspiration?
The real God is in constant contact with humans every day all over this planet. The idea of creation is not comparable with that of mythical terms given in the Bible. We probably do not agree on what classifies “Divine inspiration.”
Also, God is not a
“HE”. The Infinite God is both Male and Female in principle -- but more Female because She gives birth to everything that manifests in the multi-universes.
That's your opinion without anything to back it up. GOD is not female though HE does have a nurturing side according to the Bible. However, HE created the Universe by speaking it into being according to the Bible. GOD didn't give birth to it. I do agree that GOD through the indwelling of the HOLY SPIRIT is in contact with all those that are saved through faith in Christ. The Creation story in GOD's Word is straight forward and follows a logical course of events.