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Fortigurn wrote:
maklelan wrote:
harmony wrote:And it also might help if you both agreed what, if anything, admitting to being wrong or apologizing has to do with being open-minded (because personally I don't see the connection).


Open-minded, in my mind, means a person can be objective enough to see and admit that they've been mistaken.


Sethbag has provided a superabundance of evidence for this. He took a good hard look at the LDS church and decided he had been mistaken in believing it.


I could say the same about taking a good hard look at the church and deciding I was mistaken for not believing it. Since he's made that decision what indication has he given that he's open to the idea that he could be wrong? I've never seen anything. Just because you changed your mind once and then shut your mind back up doesn't mean you're still open-minded.
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maklelan wrote:I could say the same about taking a good hard look at the church and deciding I was mistaken for not believing it.


Well yes, if you had moved from a position of not believing in the church and then becoming convinced of it. Is this what happened?

Since he's made that decision what indication has he given that he's open to the idea that he could be wrong? I've never seen anything. Just because you changed your mind once and then shut your mind back up doesn't mean you're still open-minded.


When you reach a conclusion based not only on the lack of evidence for a proposition but also on the existence of evidence against it, and you say that you now believe the proposition to be wrong, this doesn't necessarily mean that you believe it's impossible that you are mistaken. It does mean that you believe the chances that you are mistaken are extremely remote.

I believe Sethbag is in that position with regard to the Book of Mormon. I am sure he believes it's possible that he is mistaken, but I am also sure he believes that the possibility he is mistaken is vanishingly small. That means he is open minded.

If you genuinely believe that it is possible you are wrong about the Book of Mormon, then you also are open minded.
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