Possibly going back to Utah

[_Gazelam]

Gaz, how do you know what you're supposed to be doing? I know what I should be doing, but I'm going to church anyway to keep the peace in my house. I don't go all the time, but more than I know I should.

What about personal prayer? Do you keep up with that?

[_moksha]

What about personal prayer? Do you keep up with that?

What about flossing?

[_Polygamy Porter]

What about personal prayer? Do you keep up with that?

Shut up already you dolt!

You know that Runtu knows the fraud that you unwittingly love. Yet you ask him asinine questions like he is another mindless member of the cult like you.

I'd cuss but then this would get moved. You belong in the Mormon cult Gaz, you truly do.

[_Gazelam]

You belong in the Mormon cult Gaz, you truly do.

1) Its not a cult

2) You belong as well, can I rebaptise you? You'll have to do something about that language first.

3) I ask about prayer because when someone begins to slip away, prayer tends to be the first thing to go. Prayer keeps the Spirit with you.

[_Runtu]

You belong in the Mormon cult Gaz, you truly do.

1) Its not a cult

2) You belong as well, can I rebaptise you? You'll have to do something about that language first.

3) I ask about prayer because when someone begins to slip away, prayer tends to be the first thing to go. Prayer keeps the Spirit with you.

Don't know why I'm even answering, but yes, Gaz, I do pray. It wasn't the first thing to go because it hasn't gone. I don't really know what I believe, but I'm hopeful that God is listening to me.

[_wenglund]

Hi Runtu,

As an active and believing member I have managed living quite well for several years here in ex-Mo central (SLC)--in fact my roomate is one. I suppose it all comes down to how easily you let the difference in beliefs and practices with others affect you, and where you put your priorities. Having a good paying job to support your family, and being able to work close by and thus be able to spend more time with your family, and living in a relatively safe and moral environment, to me would far out-weigh any nominal culture/belief clashes that I may experience (I don't anticipate that they would--at least not from my end).

But, then I suspect that is how you would look at it, and that you aren't inclined, like some on this thread, to project your prejudices (assuming that you have any--which I don't) onto the prevailing culture, thus making it too difficult to live in certain places.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Runtu]

Hi Runtu,

As an active and believing member I have managed living quite well for several years here in ex-Mo central (SLC)--in fact my roomate is one. I suppose it all comes down to how easily you let the difference in beliefs and practices with others affect you, and where you put your priorities. Having a good paying job to support your family, and being able to work close by and thus be able to spend more time with your family, and living in a relatively safe and moral environment, to me would far out-weigh any nominal culture/belief clashes that I may experience (I don't anticipate that they would--at least not from my end).

But, then I suspect that is how you would look at it, and that you aren't inclined, like some on this thread, to project your prejudices (assuming that you have any--which I don't) onto the prevailing culture, thus making it too difficult to live in certain places.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

My biggest concern, Wade, is uprooting the kids and going back to Utah. I'm quite familiar with the culture, having lived there many years before moving to Texas. My family has done well in Texas, and I wonder if moving to Utah would be a good move. Is it prejudiced to wonder how I would be treated as an exmo in a predominantly LDS area? Maybe. Is it a valid concern? Maybe. But I can handle anything. My wife and kids are all active in the church, and I doubt it would be much more than a culture shock (the culture is much different here in Central Texas) for them.

I do miss the mountains, and I have a lot of friends there. We'll see. I got an email last night asking to set up an interview, so the possibility is still there.

[_wenglund]

My biggest concern, Wade, is uprooting the kids and going back to Utah. I'm quite familiar with the culture, having lived there many years before moving to Texas. My family has done well in Texas, and I wonder if moving to Utah would be a good move.

You are a great dad to be so considerate. As such, I trust that whatever decision is made your children will be well cared for and will do just fine.

Is it prejudiced to wonder how I would be treated as an exmo in a predominantly LDS area? Maybe. Is it a valid concern? Maybe.

I don't think it prejudiced to merely wondering how one might be treated by a prevailing culture, any more than it would be prejudiced to for the prevailing culture to wonder how you may treat them. When it become prejudiced is when people start stereotyping and making sweeping condemnations of entire cities (like some did on this thread--not you). To me, such stereotyping is oft more a reflection of the prejudice of the person doing the steroetyping rather than the people being stereotyped.

But I can handle anything. My wife and kids are all active in the church, and I doubt it would be much more than a culture shock (the culture is much different here in Central Texas) for them.

I do miss the mountains, and I have a lot of friends there. We'll see. I got an email last night asking to set up an interview, so the possibility is still there.

Again, I have every confidence that whatever is desided, you will assure that it turns out for the best.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_wenglund]

My biggest concern, Wade, is uprooting the kids and going back to Utah. I'm quite familiar with the culture, having lived there many years before moving to Texas. My family has done well in Texas, and I wonder if moving to Utah would be a good move.

You are a great dad to be so considerate. As such, I trust that whatever decision is made your children will be well cared for and will do just fine.

Is it prejudiced to wonder how I would be treated as an exmo in a predominantly LDS area? Maybe. Is it a valid concern? Maybe.

I don't think it prejudiced to merely wonder how one might be treated by a prevailing culture, any more than it would be prejudiced for the prevailing culture to wonder how one may treat them. When it become prejudiced is when people start stereotyping and making sweeping condemnations of entire cities (like some did on this thread--not you). To me, such stereotyping is oft more a reflection of the prejudices of the person doing the steroetyping rather than the people being stereotyped.

But I can handle anything. My wife and kids are all active in the church, and I doubt it would be much more than a culture shock (the culture is much different here in Central Texas) for them.

I do miss the mountains, and I have a lot of friends there. We'll see. I got an email last night asking to set up an interview, so the possibility is still there.

Again, I have every confidence that whatever is decided, you will assure that it turns out for the best.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Runtu]

You are a great dad to be so considerate. As such, I trust that whatever decision is made your children will be well cared for and will do just fine.

I'm not a great dad (ask my kids, they'll tell you). But this is a momentous decision, just as it was 7 years ago when we decided to leave Utah.

I don't think it prejudiced to merely wondering how one might be treated by a prevailing culture, any more than it would be prejudiced to for the prevailing culture to wonder how you may treat them. When it become prejudiced is when people start stereotyping and making sweeping condemnations of entire cities (like some did on this thread--not you). To me, such stereotyping is oft more a reflection of the prejudice of the person doing the steroetyping rather than the people being stereotyped.

I don't know. I think some of the statements made could be construed as prejudiced, but most indicated to me that some people aren't comfortable in Utah County because of its social, political, and religious tendencies. I probably wouldn't be comfortable in some parts of the world, either, like maybe Tehran or Harare.

Again, I have every confidence that whatever is desided, you will assure that it turns out for the best.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

I hope you're right. I'm doing my best.