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_harmony
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Post by _harmony »

Jersey Girl wrote:...I think that what you're pointing to is a type of self-guarded system of functioning (in this case the functioning of a message board but to a greater extent the intellectual functioning of it's participants who sanction that functioning via their participation) that perpetuates and also protects the compartmentalization of what charateristics define a subset of the greater religious culture and specifically, the subset of Mormon religious culture that are "the critics" wherein features are assigned to the category without challenge.


I yield the title. Jersey, you now have the Title of Owner of Longest Sentence in a Single Post. (81 words). The previous record was 80, which I have held, lo, these many years.

You may now return to your regular program.
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Post by _Jersey Girl »

harmony wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:...I think that what you're pointing to is a type of self-guarded system of functioning (in this case the functioning of a message board but to a greater extent the intellectual functioning of it's participants who sanction that functioning via their participation) that perpetuates and also protects the compartmentalization of what charateristics define a subset of the greater religious culture and specifically, the subset of Mormon religious culture that are "the critics" wherein features are assigned to the category without challenge.


I yield the title. Jersey, you now have the Title of Owner of Longest Sentence in a Single Post. (81 words). The previous record was 80, which I have held, lo, these many years.

You may now return to your regular program.


Was it horribly written? Did it make any sense at all or did it strike you as simplistic blathering?

Be honest!

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Post by _beastie »

I don't know if it was the sentence length, but I'm confused about your point! Maybe it's just time for bed.
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Post by _Jersey Girl »

beastie wrote:I don't know if it was the sentence length, but I'm confused about your point! Maybe it's just time for bed.


My point(s) were that:

1. Assigning characteristics and attributes to a subset or category is an unreliable method of discernment.

2. There exists both formal and informal systems that engage in the above.

3. I felt like writing!

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Post by _Analytics »

Jersey Girl wrote:Analytics,

I'm afraid that, unlike others, I'm largely unfamiliar with your postings but thank goodness someone has put something on this screen that induces thought.


Thanks!

I think that what you're pointing to is a type of self-guarded system of functioning (in this case the functioning of a message board but to a greater extent the intellectual functioning of it's participants who sanction that functioning via their participation) that perpetuates and also protects the compartmentalization of what charateristics define a subset of the greater religious culture and specifically, the subset of Mormon religious culture that are "the critics" wherein features are assigned to the category without challenge.

Having said that, I do think that most of us who are critics or supporters are also prone to the same type of intellectual functioning in order to protect our notions about what others are like and what we are like....


I pretty much agree with what you're saying here.

To clarify something, I do believe in the value of the models they have in the social sciences that help explain the world around us. But I also beleive in testing them, and in always remembering that there is more to reality than the model, and that there will always be exceptions.

I think there is some truth in Juliann's pet model about apostates, although I think in the end it really misses the boat. In general, human brains seem to be more designed at self-justification than clear, objective analysis, and like Beastie said, exMormons are all too human in that regard.
It’s relatively easy to agree that only Homo sapiens can speak about things that don’t really exist, and believe six impossible things before breakfast. You could never convince a monkey to give you a banana by promising him limitless bananas after death in monkey heaven.

-Yuval Noah Harari
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