What's so great about faith?

[_Scottie]

Earlier, you agreed that we have evidence for God. So, has faith in God now turned to trust in God, since we DO have evidence?

By your definitions, it should now be label trust instead of faith.

Earlier, I was agreeing that people could interpret certain things as evidence of god, but I was in no way agreeing that it was, in fact, evidence of god.

I see.

But, for those people that do interpret certain things as evidence of God, do they still have faith in God, or is it now trust?

[_Some Schmo]

Earlier, you agreed that we have evidence for God. So, has faith in God now turned to trust in God, since we DO have evidence?

By your definitions, it should now be label trust instead of faith.

Earlier, I was agreeing that people could interpret certain things as evidence of god, but I was in no way agreeing that it was, in fact, evidence of god.

I see.

But, for those people that do interpret certain things as evidence of God, do they still have faith in God, or is it now trust?

Well, this is the problem, and it's due to the quality and interpretation of the evidence. For example, where some might say they "trust in god" that he will answer their prayers, what they're really saying is that they have faith that god answers prayers since their evidence for prayer answering is sporadic at best.

And let's face it, something needs to be said about consistency here. Evidence is only reliable if it's consistent. You do not get anything approaching consistency when it comes to evidence about god. You do, however, get much consistency when it comes to evidence of love, or evidence that people will likely want to drive on their own side of the road.

I can't help but be amazed that anyone would want to call love evidence and god evidence even remotely similar in terms of suspicion, or validity.

[_Scottie]

And let's face it, something needs to be said about consistency here. Evidence is only reliable if it's consistent. You do not get anything approaching consistency when it comes to evidence about god. You do, however, get much consistency when it comes to evidence of love, or evidence that people will likely want to drive on their own side of the road.

Oh come on. Actions of love are some of the most inconsistent and unreliable things on the planet! Do you honestly expect me to believe that you consistently show the same amount of caring toward your wife every day? No. Some days I'm sure you suffocate (in a good way) her with loving actions. Other days, I'm sure you ignore her completely. Most days you're probably somewhere inbetween. I know that's how I work.

You can deny it all you want, but some people DO see evidence for God regularly. In fact, they may see it much more often than they see signs of love from their partner.

So, I ask again, do these people trust in God or have faith in God?

[_Nephi]

And let's face it, something needs to be said about consistency here. Evidence is only reliable if it's consistent. You do not get anything approaching consistency when it comes to evidence about god. You do, however, get much consistency when it comes to evidence of love, or evidence that people will likely want to drive on their own side of the road.

If you focus on prayer ONLY then your argument fails here. The only thing this proves is that several things may not work properly here. Either 1) praying to God isn't consistent because God is not really there, or 2) praying to God isn't consistent because of how the individual prays, or 3) praying to God isn't consistent because of weather conditions, or 4) praying to God isn't consistent because fish jump, or 5) praying to God isn't consistent because man invented electricity or (see what I'm saying? There could be a whole slew of things).

The consistency of a relationship also fails if one were to, say, slip into a coma, as that person is no longer interacting with the other, and therefore, you no longer have evidence that the individual still loves you. The consistency of a relationship fails if one drives a truck OTR because the interactions happen much less frequently. The consistency of a relationship fails if one of the individuals gets depressed... Its not consistent all the time, anymore than praying to God is.

Also, God is consistent in displaying wonders in the world, whether that be childbirth, or natural beauty, or the wonders of astrophysics, or chemistry, or a whole slew of other things. There it does not fail.