How do you know it's the Holy Ghost?

[_Gazelam]

Other names for the Holy Ghost are Comforter, Revelator, Testator, Paraclete.

Now with that Name profile, how does the effects of the "Spirit" on a Shaker conform with these other titles.

[_Runtu]

Other names for the Holy Ghost are Comforter, Revelator, Testator, Paraclete.

Now with that Name profile, how does the effects of the "Spirit" on a Shaker conform with these other titles.

About as well as the effects of the spirit on such folks as Lamoni et al. Again, you're trying to exclude their experience because it doesn't conform to what you expect.

[_Tarski]

Come on ABman. yes, coincidence. This is critical thinking 101 (or basic skeptics toolbox stuff).

Dismissing out of hand that which does not fit one's worldview?

One should always presume that something that could have a mundane explanation does have one unless there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary especially in a situation where confirmation bias is a prominant likelihood. I'm sure you follow this principle in cases where your religion isn't an issue.

Here is something for you to consider (but don't dismiss it because it doesn't fit your worldview!!).

I have witnessed the predictive power of the fortune cookie. One said I was going to have a fun time in the south and I got that cookie just a day before going to Cabo San Luca Mexico. I did have some fun!

[_Tarski]

Other names for the Holy Ghost are Comforter, Revelator, Testator, Paraclete..

Really? Isn't that interpretation part of your very specific religion-the religion whose truth is the very thing that the HG sensation is alleged to support?
I smell a logical circle.

[_asbestosman]

One should always presume that something that could have a mundane explanation does have one unless there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary especially in a situation where confirmation bias is a prominant likelihood. I'm sure you follow this principle in cases where your religion isn't an issue.

Here is something for you to consider (but don't dismiss it because it doesn't fit your worldview!!).

I have witnessed the predictive power of the fortune cookie. One said I was going to have a fun time in the south and I got that cookie just a day before going to Cabo San Luca Mexico. I did have some fun!

I'm dismissing it because it seems too vague and insignificant. If it said you'd see the Virgin Mary on a sandwich (the Holy Toast?), I might silently chuckle but I would at least think it's a bit more significant and more likely to have something behind it.

If I were trying to argue against my position now, I might go back for the coin flipping example Dennett used in his book, Darwin's Dangerous Idea. Have people pair up in coin tosses with one flipping and the other calling. The winners progress to the next round. With enough people then coincidences certainly will happen even though to the one it happens to it will seem significant. I don't dispute that. What I dispute is that there are enough people for such coincidences to be likely enough that we'd find one who experienced it here on this board. Sure it could be, but I'd also be highly suspicious if someone on this rather small board claimed to have won the lottery--I would lean towards an explanation other than chance or coincidence in such a case.

[_KimberlyAnn]

Other names for the Holy Ghost are Comforter, Revelator, Testator, Paraclete..

Really? Isn't that interpretation part of your very specific religion-the religion whose truth is the very thing that the HG sensation is alleged to support?
I smell a logical circle.

I notice the Holy Ghost tends to tell people what they want to hear specific to their own religious preferences.

KA

[_Nephi]

Other names for the Holy Ghost are Comforter, Revelator, Testator, Paraclete..

Really? Isn't that interpretation part of your very specific religion-the religion whose truth is the very thing that the HG sensation is alleged to support?
I smell a logical circle.

I notice the Holy Ghost tends to tell people what they want to hear specific to their own religious preferences.

KA

Not totally. There are times it tells you things that help but are religious speicific or things you want to hear, like how someone is going to hurt you or how you need to change lanes to avoid an accident you have no ideas about.

My argument is that the Holy Ghost is God's wife. The aspects of the Holy Ghost is definitely feminine to me, and therefore the hidden wife of the Lord. It would solidify the idea of how important the family is. Father, Mother, Child.

[_Mercury]

My argument is that the Holy Ghost is God's wife. The aspects of the Holy Ghost is definitely feminine to me, and therefore the hidden wife of the Lord. It would solidify the idea of how important the family is. Father, Mother, Child.

Hey, I suggest you bring that up in Gospel Doctrine class tomorrow. Better yet, give a talk on it in church the next time you have the chance. Just tell everyone that you believe it and see what happens.

If you get hauled into the bishops office, remember to tell them all the other interesting things you believe.

[_The Nehor]

Other names for the Holy Ghost are Comforter, Revelator, Testator, Paraclete..

Really? Isn't that interpretation part of your very specific religion-the religion whose truth is the very thing that the HG sensation is alleged to support?
I smell a logical circle.

I notice the Holy Ghost tends to tell people what they want to hear specific to their own religious preferences.

KA

I wish it would show that restraint with me. It keeps telling me I'm wrong.

[_Gazelam]

My argument is that the Holy Ghost is God's wife. The aspects of the Holy Ghost is definitely feminine to me, and therefore the hidden wife of the Lord. It would solidify the idea of how important the family is. Father, Mother, Child.

Theres even more evidence of the Holy GHost as a feminine in some jewish writings, but its not true.

The Holy Ghost made a personal appearence in the Book of Mormon to Nephi. 1 Nephi 11:11