LDS housewife writes book; Zoidberg pukes

[_barrelomonkeys]

Whatever turns women on is fine by me.

Are you sure about that? ;)

[_asbestosman]

“Take care that all your conversation is feminine. First, don’t talk too much. Almost all women talk too much.

I'd say she's right about that. Pity she doesn't take her own advice and end her book there.

Make sure your conversation is not centered on yourself.

I agree with that too, but I think the advice applies equally to men here.

Don’t dominate the conversation or share too many opinions.”

There's where she goes horribly wrong, in my opinion. It's not that women share too many opinions, but rather that the women I know either don't share enough, or are simply trying to run my life (motherly-like). But to be fair, my mother hasn't meedled much since I got married, and my wife is not a manipulator either. No, what I'm talking about is that many women I know talk on and on about what I consider to be boring subjects: the weather, flowers, how so-and-so is doing. That's fine if they want to talk amoungst themselves about that, but why make me sit at the dinner table listening when I could be at a computer playing games, or at least discussing games with some guys? And then it gets later and later and the women keep talking about increadbly boring subjects. Why not call each other or get in touch with email or Skype or something? Why make me suffer with your loghorrea? Why? If I bust out my pocket PC and you are offended at my rudeness, then we'll call it even.

Please, by all means opine about something like politics, philosophy, religion, or even feminism. Please do that because those subjects are infinitely more interesting than so-and-so's kids who I've probably never met nor likely ever will. Please talk about that instead of which dresses are cute.

If I must somehow be present for that madness, could you at least taylor the activity a bit for the masculine side? Us guys don't like talking directly so much. We prefer to have a distraction present like sports (but I hate watching sports) or some other activity. Thus next time you need idle prattle and I must be present for some reason, please break out UNO, Risk, Monopoly, or something like that.


The rest of her stuff was scary.

[_Yoda]

There's where she goes horribly wrong, in my opinion. It's not that women share too many opinions, but rather that the women I know either don't share enough, or are simply trying to run my life (motherly-like). But to be fair, my mother hasn't meedled much since I got married, and my wife is not a manipulator either. No, what I'm talking about is that many women I know talk on and on about what I consider to be boring subjects: the weather, flowers, how so-and-so is doing. That's fine if they want to talk amoungst themselves about that, but why make me sit at the dinner table listening when I could be at a computer playing games, or at least discussing games with some guys? And then it gets later and later and the women keep talking about increadbly boring subjects. Why not call each other or get in touch with email or Skype or something? Why make me suffer with your loghorrea? Why? If I bust out my pocket PC and you are offended at my rudeness, then we'll call it even.

Please, by all means opine about something like politics, philosophy, religion, or even feminism. Please do that because those subjects are infinitely more interesting than so-and-so's kids who I've probably never met nor likely ever will. Please talk about that instead of which dresses are cute.

My Molly-Mormon sisters in law all hate me. I can't stand these types of conversations. I always end up in the other room talking with the men about computers.

;)

[_SatanWasSetUp]

So this now octogenarian Mormon lady, Helen Andelin, wrote a book titled "Fascinating Womanhood"; it has gained a number of followers worldwide, spawned an anti-feminist movement and classes are offered in several countries. It started in the 60s and it's still going on! I kid you not. And you thought the Good Wife's Guide was a hoax!

Here are some excerpts (emphasis added):

“Take care that all your conversation is feminine. First, don’t talk too much. Almost all women talk too much. Make sure your conversation is not centered on yourself. Don’t dominate the conversation or share too many opinions.”

"In the face of his marriage problems he has felt he must suppress his anger to hold his marriage securely together. This is not to say he acted wisely but only that he did so out of what he felt was a necessity. A high-principled man who loves his children will make every effort to hold his marriage securely together. When his wife applies Fascinating Womanhood over a period of time he begins to feel secure in his marriage. He no longer feels he must hold his troubled feelings within and loses his fear that speaking out will cause further marriage problems. Then one day, at last, he dares to open Pandora's Box and release the resentful feelings he has kept hidden there.
If you should face such a situation, allow him to empty Pandora's Box. You should, in fact, encourage him to speak freely and openly. And you should not make the mistake of defending yourself, justifying your actions or fighting back. You will have to sit there quietly, taking it all and even agreeing with him by saying "I know, I know, you are right.""

"If your husband doesn't love you, you are likely doing something to cool his affections, or have lost something which awakens his love."

"Does your husband ever speak to you harshly, criticize you unduly, treat you unfairly, neglect you, impose on you, or in any way mistreat you? The important thing is not what he does but how you react. Do you shrink back as if struck by a lash? Do you go into your shell? Do you pay him back with a cutting remark? Or, do you fly off the handle with an ugly temper? If you react in any of these ways you will cause yourself unnecessary grief and lessen your husband's love for you."

"Instead of hurting marriage, childlike anger can increase love and tenderness."

"Within your reach is the possibility of a happy marriage. You can bring it about independent of any effort on the part of your husband."

Here's an excerpt from an article about what is taught in "Fascinating Womanhood" classes (it's from the 70s, but the calsses are still offered, mind you):

"A class of middle-aged women is practicing foot stomping. "That's right," says the teacher, "now walk briskly to the door, pause, lift your chin higher, and look back over your shoulder." The women are taking one version of a lesson in "How to be cute, even adorable when you are angry," an exercise the Fascinating Womanhood movement uses to bring husbands to heel." http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... -1,00.html

I'm sure that after reading all this, you are anxious to get your hands on the book and partake of its feminine insight. Which is not too profound, of course, because we all know that a woman "havest not the capacity to think" (1st Laban 5:16, The Book of Zelph: Another Testament of the Book of Mormon). I have no doubt that it is true in the case of Mrs. Andelin - yet another evidence supporting The Book of Zelph and, by extention, the Book of Mormon!

Visit her homepage here: http://www.fascinatingwomanhood.net

I hereby declare the pukefest open!

FM is an AWESOME book. Highly recommended to all my guy friends to give to their wives. Why would any guy be opposed to this book? We need to get the word out.

[_Always Thinking]

So this now octogenarian Mormon lady, Helen Andelin, wrote a book titled "Fascinating Womanhood"; it has gained a number of followers worldwide, spawned an anti-feminist movement and classes are offered in several countries. It started in the 60s and it's still going on! I kid you not. And you thought the Good Wife's Guide was a hoax!

Here are some excerpts (emphasis added):

“Take care that all your conversation is feminine. First, don’t talk too much. Almost all women talk too much. Make sure your conversation is not centered on yourself. Don’t dominate the conversation or share too many opinions.”

"In the face of his marriage problems he has felt he must suppress his anger to hold his marriage securely together. This is not to say he acted wisely but only that he did so out of what he felt was a necessity. A high-principled man who loves his children will make every effort to hold his marriage securely together. When his wife applies Fascinating Womanhood over a period of time he begins to feel secure in his marriage. He no longer feels he must hold his troubled feelings within and loses his fear that speaking out will cause further marriage problems. Then one day, at last, he dares to open Pandora's Box and release the resentful feelings he has kept hidden there.
If you should face such a situation, allow him to empty Pandora's Box. You should, in fact, encourage him to speak freely and openly. And you should not make the mistake of defending yourself, justifying your actions or fighting back. You will have to sit there quietly, taking it all and even agreeing with him by saying "I know, I know, you are right.""

"If your husband doesn't love you, you are likely doing something to cool his affections, or have lost something which awakens his love."

"Does your husband ever speak to you harshly, criticize you unduly, treat you unfairly, neglect you, impose on you, or in any way mistreat you? The important thing is not what he does but how you react. Do you shrink back as if struck by a lash? Do you go into your shell? Do you pay him back with a cutting remark? Or, do you fly off the handle with an ugly temper? If you react in any of these ways you will cause yourself unnecessary grief and lessen your husband's love for you."

"Instead of hurting marriage, childlike anger can increase love and tenderness."

"Within your reach is the possibility of a happy marriage. You can bring it about independent of any effort on the part of your husband."

Here's an excerpt from an article about what is taught in "Fascinating Womanhood" classes (it's from the 70s, but the calsses are still offered, mind you):

"A class of middle-aged women is practicing foot stomping. "That's right," says the teacher, "now walk briskly to the door, pause, lift your chin higher, and look back over your shoulder." The women are taking one version of a lesson in "How to be cute, even adorable when you are angry," an exercise the Fascinating Womanhood movement uses to bring husbands to heel." http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... -1,00.html

I'm sure that after reading all this, you are anxious to get your hands on the book and partake of its feminine insight. Which is not too profound, of course, because we all know that a woman "havest not the capacity to think" (1st Laban 5:16, The Book of Zelph: Another Testament of the Book of Mormon). I have no doubt that it is true in the case of Mrs. Andelin - yet another evidence supporting The Book of Zelph and, by extention, the Book of Mormon!

Visit her homepage here: http://www.fascinatingwomanhood.net

I hereby declare the pukefest open!

Yes, this is definitely pukefest worthy. Gag.

A marriage this shallow is sure road to misery.

I don't see any friendship or love there.

I need a spouse that is my best friend. Not someone that needs a fake smiling face all the time.

To be honest, I think it would be easier for my poor dh if I were this 'perfect'. But, alas, I couldn't be this type of woman no matter how hard I tried. He gets the real me no matter what, lol.

And we usually like each other a lot!!

[_truth dancer]

To be honest, I think it would be easier for my poor dh if I were this 'perfect'.

What sort of man thinks this is a "perfect" woman?

A woman who is putting on an act to manipulate him? A woman who is so insecure that she feels she must pretend to be some submissive, incompetent, nauseating nothing? A woman who must act like a child? A woman who feels so desperate that she feels her authentic self wouldn't be attractive to a man? A woman so miserable with herself that she feels she must put on an act so she can have a man? A woman who believes her husband is so insecure that she must feign dependence so his ego will get a boost?

I mean seriously... a guy who wants this sort of woman has some serious issues!

And, women who think there is something noble or good about pretense, superficiality, manipulation, and pathetic subservience in a mature and healthy relationship have some serious issues as well.

Thankfully the men in my life are not those who would even remotely be interested, let alone attracted to such a woman nor would they ever wish for such a pathetic type of relationship.

Strong men love strong women! ;-) It is the insecure, pathetic man who enjoys a woman, (or girl), he can demean and degrade with all his pretend power and control.

Very sick!

~dancer~

[_Blixa]

Where I am hanging out, more women are becoming more violent and more abusive to their children.

Oh my goodness, why me! I'm really worried about where you're hanging out! Perhaps you could sew a button on or have a tailor insert a zipper. Velcro works well, too.

[_truth dancer]

Why Me,

Where I am hanging out, more women are becoming more violent and more abusive to their children.

I'm hoping you are calling CPS each time you see all these women abuse and demonstrate violence toward their children!

Like Blixa, I'm wondering where you are hanging out. ;-)

~dancer~

[_barrelomonkeys]

Where I am hanging out, more women are becoming more violent and more abusive to their children.

Oh my goodness, why me! I'm really worried about where you're hanging out! Perhaps you could sew a button on or have a tailor insert a zipper. Velcro works well, too.

Perhaps this is why there is so much violence where why me is hanging out? Mothers yanking their children's arms to pull them away from why me and his hanging outness?

[_Zoidberg]

Where I am hanging out, more women are becoming more violent and more abusive to their children.

Oh my goodness, why me! I'm really worried about where you're hanging out! Perhaps you could sew a button on or have a tailor insert a zipper. Velcro works well, too.

ROFL!