Robert Ritner Gives the Final Word on the Missing Scroll!

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Mattie wrote:
As I understand it, Schryver's article has never been published. But this other guy can just come along and say he's wrong?


That is correct. That is how a free society works.
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Mattie wrote:
As I understand it, Schryver's article has never been published.


Yes, he's a bit sensitive about that so best not to mention it really....
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As I understand it, Schryver's article has never been published. But this other guy can just come along and say he's wrong?


Yeah, my next door neighbor (a ski instructor), has never been published but this other guy, Stephen Hawking just came along and said my neighbor's theory on physics is wrong.

Silly!

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truth dancer wrote:
As I understand it, Schryver's article has never been published. But this other guy can just come along and say he's wrong?


Yeah, my next door neighbor (a ski instructor), has never been published but this other guy, Stephen Hawking just came along and said my neighbor's theory on physics is wrong.

Silly!

~td~


good point. I think Mattie is Will Schryver's mom.
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Mattie wrote:I know absolutely nothing about this stuff, ...


Obviously.

but don't you people think it's premature to assume one person is wrong about something simply because someone else says so?


Do you know who Ritter is? Do you know who Will is? Do you know who Kevin is? Do you know who Chris and Andrew are?

Ritter is not just "somebody". Ritter is a world renowed well respected academic with credentials out the wazoo in the subject that Will... well... Will is none of those things.

"Andrew and Chris have it right. The apologists have it wrong."

That's all it takes?


That and about 10 years of research, presentations, and assorted rewrites... yeah.

As I understand it, Schryver's article has never been published. But this other guy can just come along and say he's wrong?


And likely won't be, unless the church wants to collectively subject themselves to unrestrained laughter and ridicule.

Seriously, Mattie. Do a little research.

Is this how you objectively examine the evidence and fairly consider all sides of the argument and then use your powers of reasoning to reach a rationale decision?


Put in your 10 years of research on your own dime, bring it to the board, and then you'll have something to add.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:I'm having a hard time deciding who to trust on this issue. On one hand we have Robert Ritner, one of the most pre-eminent scholars of Egyptology in the entire world. On the other hand we have Will Schryver.

I just don't know.


Let me just remind you that William used to drop acid and smoked dope on a regular basis. Yep, William was a true acid head. Follow him . . . .

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Carton wrote:
brade wrote:Ritner's work won't count because he's biased against Mormonism. Amiright?

Plus, he's gay, and has had a chip on his shoulder ever since he saw that Prop 8 movie.


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Kishkumen wrote:The whole Book of Abraham discussion is insane.


The Book of Abraham is a revealed book. Joseph Smith translated it before the papyrus was taken away. Deal with it -- you dirty apostate!!

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harmony wrote:
Mattie wrote:I know absolutely nothing about this stuff, ...


Obviously.

but don't you people think it's premature to assume one person is wrong about something simply because someone else says so?


Do you know who Ritter is? Do you know who Will is? Do you know who Kevin is? Do you know who Chris and Andrew are?

Ritter is not just "somebody". Ritter is a world renowed well respected academic with credentials out the wazoo in the subject that Will... well... Will is none of those things.

"Andrew and Chris have it right. The apologists have it wrong."

That's all it takes?


That and about 10 years of research, presentations, and assorted rewrites... yeah.

As I understand it, Schryver's article has never been published. But this other guy can just come along and say he's wrong?


And likely won't be, unless the church wants to collectively subject themselves to unrestrained laughter and ridicule.

Seriously, Mattie. Do a little research.

Is this how you objectively examine the evidence and fairly consider all sides of the argument and then use your powers of reasoning to reach a rationale decision?


Put in your 10 years of research on your own dime, bring it to the board, and then you'll have something to add.


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Shulem wrote:
Kishkumen wrote:The whole Book of Abraham discussion is insane.


The Book of Abraham is a revealed book. Joseph Smith translated it before the papyrus was taken away. Deal with it -- you dirty apostate!!

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