deacon blues wrote:I grew up in the same ward Elder Clarke did. He's about 6-7 years older than I am. I would submit the possibility that he was just repeating a untrue story that he heard, rather than that he would make it up.
Of course it's in the rumor mill of the GA's
You know Mormons and their faith-promoting rumors.
deacon blues wrote:I grew up in the same ward Elder Clarke did. He's about 6-7 years older than I am. I would submit the possibility that he was just repeating a untrue story that he heard, rather than that he would make it up.
If so then we can expect him to issue an apology where he explains that he did not have the correct information, right?
deacon blues wrote:I grew up in the same ward Elder Clarke did. He's about 6-7 years older than I am. I would submit the possibility that he was just repeating a untrue story that he heard, rather than that he would make it up.
If so then we can expect him to issue an apology where he explains that he did not have the correct information, right?
Hold on here.... you may be underestimating the power of the Holy Ghost in his soul. That Trump's all "fake news"......
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RockSlider wrote:It's nice that we get this glimpse but in a way it's too bad that Trevor violated the love and desire of his mission president to help him out.
Agreed. I thought it was a lousy and dishonest thing to do, especially because he questions their honesty and openness. It was his intent to make them look bad for his personal aggrandizement before the disaffected crowd.
RockSlider wrote:It's nice that we get this glimpse but in a way it's too bad that Trevor violated the love and desire of his mission president to help him out.
Agreed. I thought it was a lousy and dishonest thing to do, especially because he questions their honesty and openness. It was his intent to make them look bad for his personal aggrandizement before the disaffected crowd.
I get all of that, but the deliberate personal slurring by Clarke is staggering. He's supposed to be a man of God and he's slandering someone just because he's got no good answer to the CES letter. How many other members with genuine questions about the CES letter have been told that? Is it part of a list of suggested "ways to deal with the CES letter" that's been issued to the 70?
“When we are confronted with evidence that challenges our deeply held beliefs we are more likely to reframe the evidence than we are to alter our beliefs. We simply invent new reasons, new justifications, new explanations. Sometimes we ignore the evidence altogether.” (Mathew Syed 'Black Box Thinking')
deacon blues wrote:I grew up in the same ward Elder Clarke did. He's about 6-7 years older than I am. I would submit the possibility that he was just repeating a untrue story that he heard, rather than that he would make it up.
Because he's so responsible that he would never inadvertently smear someone by spreading unsubstantiated rumors.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
RockSlider wrote:After the leak of audio of a private meeting he setup, I'll bet the poor guy caught hell over this.
Which is a shame as it will cause ever deeping separation between the GA's and the members.
It's nice that we get this glimpse but in a way it's too bad that Trevor violated the love and desire of his mission president to help him out.
This is a tragedy of the collective leadership's making. It is hard to feel at all bad for them.
That said, I would not have done what JD and Trevor did. Especially in Trevor's case, why you would publish a secret recording of your former mission president, whom you claim to like, talking with you about your faith crisis is beyond me. There is something fundamentally icky about doing such a thing.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
