U of with shows Church how to apologise for past racism

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Re: U of with shows Church how to apologise for past racism

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The Book of Mormon is a racist text with a racist premise. Look at it.
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moksha wrote:LDSfaqs, any chance God will bring back those dark loincloths you have told us about in past discussions on racism (perhaps under the Beehive-Speedo brand)?


I don't recall EVER using the term "loincloth"...
I used the words "Skins" and "Garments" which are terms described in the scriptures related to righteousness, light and darkness, etc.

Here's my Evidence... (ignore the funky of the video, just pay attention to the facts presented related to the scriptures and subject at hand here)

Black & White Skins in Light of Ancient Garment Color Symbolism in Book of Mormon #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQFev9IX-70

Black & White Skins in Light of Ancient Garment Color Symbolism in Book of Mormon #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O64PJgxEWhI

Black & White Skins in Light of Ancient Garment Color Symbolism in Book of Mormon #3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a0_nRgL9cE
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Re: U of with shows Church how to apologise for past racism

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And.... here's some more.

BLACK & WHITE "SKINS" IN Book of Mormon IN LIGHT OF ANCIENT GARMENT COLOR SYMBOLISM #4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzp70cBiLV4

BLACK & WHITE "SKINS" IN Book of Mormon IN LIGHT OF ANCIENT COLOR GARMENT SYMBOLISM #5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGFhnuBsqxA

BLACK & WHITE "Skins" In Book of Mormon, in Light of Ancient Garment Color Symbolism, #6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmi-Ya9ySY8
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Re: U of with shows Church how to apologise for past racism

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At least to my limited understanding it appears unlikely in the extreme that the church will ever apologize for the ban on Negroes holding the priesthood. It is not just that the ban helped people to feel special. An apology would mean that the ban was wrong. How can the church admit that the leaders were so deeply committed to being wrong, teaching something that is wrong, and setting the church up as a standard barer for a principal which is wrong?

The story will remain that the ban was Gods will, that the prophet advanced Gods will and it was God who decided that the time to end the ban had come.
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huckelberry wrote:At least to my limited understanding it appears unlikely in the extreme that the church will ever apologize for the ban on Negroes holding the priesthood. It is not just that the ban helped people to feel special. An apology would mean that the ban was wrong. How can the church admit that the leaders were so deeply committed to being wrong, teaching something that is wrong, and setting the church up as a standard barer for a principal which is wrong?

The story will remain that the ban was Gods will, that the prophet advanced Gods will and it was God who decided that the time to end the ban had come.


Again, there was no ban on "Negros"...

Negros of the Islands, India, parts of Central/South America, etc. etc. just as "Negro" as ANY "Negro" WERE given the Priesthood.
The ban ONLY applied to the specific lineages based in Africa. Period.

Why do you people continue to willfully state falsehoods when corrected with the actual Facts?
The occasional human fallibility of history by some LDS, including your interpretations of some of it, is irrelevant to what the Churches ACTUAL POLICY was!
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Cain slew his brother.... and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin.
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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FAQS can't read. Shocking, I know. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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My god FAQS, even your fearless leaders won't go that far. They duck and hide, pretending that their holy books aren't as racist as an ordinary person would find after reading them.
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Re: U of with shows Church how to apologise for past racism

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ldsfaqs wrote:
huckelberry wrote:At least to my limited understanding it appears unlikely in the extreme that the church will ever apologize for the ban on Negroes holding the priesthood. It is not just that the ban helped people to feel special. An apology would mean that the ban was wrong. How can the church admit that the leaders were so deeply committed to being wrong, teaching something that is wrong, and setting the church up as a standard barer for a principal which is wrong?

The story will remain that the ban was Gods will, that the prophet advanced Gods will and it was God who decided that the time to end the ban had come.


Again, there was no ban on "Negros"...

Negros of the Islands, India, parts of Central/South America, etc. etc. just as "Negro" as ANY "Negro" WERE given the Priesthood.
The ban ONLY applied to the specific lineages based in Africa. Period.

Why do you people continue to willfully state falsehoods when corrected with the actual Facts?
The occasional human fallibility of history by some LDS, including your interpretations of some of it, is irrelevant to what the Churches ACTUAL POLICY was!


Thanks for posting all this racist BS. It just goes to show how tone deaf Mormons can be. I was raised being told the brown skin of my family was because of the lamanite curse. Hell I had a Prophet tell me directly I was lamanite. So before the shift to the BS of “shirts” as skins can have any validity how about a church apology for the two hundred year mistake to Native Americans.
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Re: U of with shows Church how to apologise for past racism

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Dr LOD wrote:Thanks for posting all this racist BS. It just goes to show how tone deaf Mormons can be. I was raised being told the brown skin of my family was because of the Lamanite curse. Hell I had a Prophet tell me directly I was Lamanite. So before the shift to the BS of “shirts” as skins can have any validity how about a church apology for the two hundred year mistake to Native Americans.


Shows how much you know...

Brown skin was a "sign" of the curse, not the actual curse because of all the inter-marrying the Lamanites did, the living more primitively, and rebellion from the Gospel, in contrast to the Nephites at the time.

So what if a prophet said you were a Lamanite. You do know the Lamanites were the GOOD GUYS at the end?
Sorry to burst your bigotry and ignorance bubble with the actual truth and facts of things.
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