FairMormon is trying to make TikTok style shorts from DCP's talks

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Re: FairMormon is trying to make TikTok style shorts from DCP's talks

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drumdude wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:35 pm
“There’s nothing at all that points to him being a cynical manipulative deceiver.”

Joseph Smith was put on trial for exactly this, per Richard Bushman:

https://rsc.BYU.edu/sites/default/files ... igging.pdf
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drumdude wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:35 pm
“There’s nothing at all that points to him being a cynical manipulative deceiver.”
So, telling an underaged girl that she must polygamously marry him in order to get her family into Heaven, and she only has 24 hours to decide, doesn't count as "cynical manipulative deception?"
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:41 am
drumdude wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:35 pm
“There’s nothing at all that points to him being a cynical manipulative deceiver.”
So, telling an underaged girl that she must polygamously marry him in order to get her family into Heaven, and she only has 24 hours to decide, doesn't count as "cynical manipulative deception?"
Not to Daniel C Peterson.
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There’s nothing at all that points to him being a cynical manipulative deceiver
sneaky. Wouldn't Dan Vogel agree?
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Gadianton wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:08 pm
There’s nothing at all that points to him being a cynical manipulative deceiver
sneaky. Wouldn't Dan Vogel agree?
Vogel says you don’t need to assume or prove Smith was a con man to argue Mormonism is not what it claims to be. A pious fraud is still a fraud.
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drumdude wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:35 pm
“There’s nothing at all that points to him being a cynical manipulative deceiver.”
In that case, Dr. Peterson ought to familiarize himself with Chris Smith's 2015 Sunstone Presentation showing how Mormonism was originally Joseph Smith's criminal enterprise (link helpfully provided by Moksha on a previous date):

https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads ... th2015.mp3

Goodbye, pious fraud theory.
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