Elder Oaks is creating an environment ripe for violence, says his grandson

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Elder Oaks is creating an environment ripe for violence, says his grandson

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42-year-old Jared believes that no matter how much the language has softened — the LDS Church now teaches that being LGBTQ is not a sin, but acting on it is — defining some forms of love as unacceptable is to invite dehumanization and hostility.

“When we are taught that others are morally corrupt or dangerous for acting on the way that they love,” he says in an interview, “we create an environment ripe for violence.”

The violence is not always physical, Jared says, but the spiritual, emotional or even educational harm still wounds.
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2024/10 ... -oaks-gay/

You have to be some piece of work to knowingly make your own grandchild feel like that.

This situation highlights a real problem within Mormon teachings, and shows that at its core it is ensuring that families cannot be together forever. The father of Jared Oaks has a dilemma created by Mormonism. Because if the way Mormon afterlife is structured, Jared Oaks will not inherit the same kingdom as his grandfather Dallin H. Oaks (and Dalin’s multiple wives). So Jared’s father has to choose between spending eternity with his dad, Dallin H. Oaks, or with his son Jared, or with neither. He cannot, under the teachings of Mormonism, spend eternity with both.

As I see it, he has to choose to spend eternity with his child, and ditch his parent Dallin. What parent ditches their kids for eternity? So parents will either choose to congregate in the kingdom which includes their least Mormon compliant child, and the Celestial Kingdom will be full of parents who put themselves before their kids. It’s logical that will be the situation of Mormonism’s teachings are correct.
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I suppose that is why Joseph Smith, Jr., promised faithful Mormon parents that their wayward children would be saved along with the parents--a teaching that the LDS Church has since abandoned--after all, that does not motivate the children to obey the church leaders or pay tithing.
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Re: Elder Oaks is creating an environment ripe for violence, says his grandson

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The LGBTQ community lives large in Oaks' head. He seems obsessed, and once he assents to the top slot, he is going to do some damage in the name of religious freedom.
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His relationship with his family, particularly with his grandfather, has been strained. While Jared revealed his sexuality to his parents in 2011, their response was muted, simply responding to his confession with 'ok.'

Dallin H. Oaks, for his part, offered little more than a reminder to remain part of the church's rituals, highlighting a disconnect that left Jared feeling unsupported during a critical period of self-acceptance.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... crets.html

Great parenting
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Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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