Utah as a hellscape for women and children

[drumdude]

After playing around with the data visualization tools and the information in the surveys, I found it extremely easy to bias the viewer of the graphic by strategically choosing which data to include and how to color it.

For example the data I provided about kids in 2 parent married households covers the whole age range and only shows a variation of between 50-80 percent.

The graphic Dan posted has a narrow age range of only a few years, and has a wider variation of between 30-70 percent. They also added a 3rd color specifically to highlight Utah. The consumer of the data is Mormons, who can have a warm fuzzy feeling of being vindicated with “facts.”

This is why the old saying goes, “there are lies, damned lies, and statistics.”

Wow. So he either manipulated the data, or got it from someone who did? That's a great example of what some emeritus BYU professors think of the honor code.

It’s still unclear, and he hasn’t bothered to put a citation on the image. He likes playing loose with attribution as we all know.

It’s far more important for him to clear up the record on Interpreter’s meaningless unbroken publishing streak.

[Tom]

Wow. So he either manipulated the data, or got it from someone who did? That's a great example of what some emeritus BYU professors think of the honor code.

It’s still unclear, and he hasn’t bothered to put a citation on the image. He likes playing loose with attribution as we all know.

It’s far more important for him to clear up the record on Interpreter’s meaningless unbroken publishing streak.

I think this is the article from which Peterson copy/pasted the graphic in the OP

I believe IHQ identified the source above (a Deseret News article). (It was originally published here.)

[drumdude]

It’s still unclear, and he hasn’t bothered to put a citation on the image. He likes playing loose with attribution as we all know.

It’s far more important for him to clear up the record on Interpreter’s meaningless unbroken publishing streak.

I think this is the article from which Peterson copy/pasted the graphic in the OP

I believe IHQ identified the source above (a Deseret News article). (It was originally published here.)

I wonder if he asked for permission to post the image. After being called out for plagiarism here, he has passive-aggressively cited every image taken from public domain sources, often with a trite quip.

[Marcus]

It’s still unclear, and he hasn’t bothered to put a citation on the image. He likes playing loose with attribution as we all know.

It’s far more important for him to clear up the record on Interpreter’s meaningless unbroken publishing streak.

I think this is the article from which Peterson copy/pasted the graphic in the OP

I believe IHQ identified the source above (a Deseret News article). (It was originally published here.)

Thank you Tom!

[Tom]

I believe IHQ identified the source above (a Deseret News article). (It was originally published here.)

I wonder if he asked for permission to post the image. After being called out for plagiarism here, he has passive-aggressively cited every image taken from public domain sources, often with a trite quip.

I am reminded of some rather amusing captions he has used on his blog:

An artist’s rendition of the planned Cleveland Ohio Temple, to be built within just a few miles of the Kirtland Temple. (Image from Intellectual Reserve; I hope that this constitutes “fair use.” If not, I hope that someone from Intellectual Reserve will politely contact me.)

Intellectual Reserve doesn’t contact anyone politely.

The cover art for the third volume of “Saints,” the official history being published by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. There was also opposition to the construction of the Bern Switzerland Temple, which is depicted here, back in the 1950s. (I hope this constitutes “fair use” of the image.)

A depiction of the First Vision by the Argentinian Latter-day Saint artist Jorge Cocco Santángelo.
I have, incidentally, made an effort to discover the copyright status of this image, but have been unable to be certain of it. I’m assuming that my employment of it here constitutes an example of “fair use.” Authoritative communications to the contrary would be welcomed. I would like Jorge Cocco’s work to be better known in the Latter-day Saint community. I’m happy to see that this may be beginning to happen.

Wulf Barsch, “The Ascension of Isaiah”
(I have been unable to find copyright information regarding this image of a work by a prominent contemporary LDS artist whom I admire, so, if anybody who holds copyright on it wishes to contact me, that would please me and put my mind at ease.)

I trust that the folks at the Lahaina Fish Company will be okay with my borrowing this image from their website as an instance of fair use (and as an unpaid advertisement for them) — though, alas, I fear that their restaurant may be no more.

Posted from Amgid, Utah

[Tom]

Will the Proprietor credit the Deseret News for the graphic? It remains to be seen. This board may guilt him into doing the right thing.

Posted from Amgid, Utah

[drumdude]

Will the Proprietor credit the Deseret News for the graphic? It remains to be seen. This board may guilt him into doing the right thing.

Posted from Amgid, Utah

You’d think a former BYU professor would value basic academic practices like proper source attribution. But I imagine the reason he preferred mopolgetics was to avoid those pesky demands of scholarly integrity.

[Doctor Scratch]

I’ve never encountered anyone who was so credulous and/or tendentious about statistics as DCP. His treatment of things like that map show very clearly that he’s not a serious “intellectual,” and that instead he’s a cheap polemicist who only cares about the way that data can be manipulated for rhetorical gain.

[drumdude]

I love that map. There's no greater sign (in my opinion) that the Kingdom is on the right track than the (comparatively) high number of happy and healthy families it produces.

The manipulation is working as intended.

[I Have Questions]

I noticed that the map Peterson selected to promote Utah used relatively old data (2021-2022). Here's some more recent findings that show Utah is slipping...

Connecticut (1), the overall happiest and healthiest state for children, has the fifth highest rate of children living in neighborhoods with a library, the fifth lowest youth suicide rate, the sixth best access to parks and recreation facilities, and the seventh best mental health provider per population ratio.

https://www.vocovision.com/blog/the-hap ... lthy-kids/



Utah only manages a rank of 7th - behind Connecticut, Massachusetts, New York, Maryland, Rhode Island, and Illinois. There was 1 highlight for Utah though..

Children in Utah (7) get the most sleep, with 74.9% of children receiving the recommended age-appropriate hours of sleep each night.

Which might be down to the nightly practice of reading "chloroform in print"...